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Acting needy/desperate and lots more like a chump!!!!!

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Take a look at this. Does this signalled needyness/ desperation and etc?

Sly : Hey it's me here. (Calling a girl on the phone to ask her out)

HB : What do you want?

Sly : I have friends going out on Fri night to clubs. Come along and join us please.

HB : I'm busy so I am not going.

Sly : Allright, that's too bad. Maybe some other time.

HB : We shall see.

Sly : Make sure you come the next time if we're out....

HB : We shall see.

Sly : Bye

HB : (Slammed the phone without saying bye or anything)

Okay, so two days ago I called her and asked her out again. She agreed. Today is suppose to be our date and guess what, she cancelled at the last min when I was about to walk out of that f*cking door. She gave a stupid excuse saying that her aunt is so sick that she needs to be over to her house to look after her.

See..........I hate it when girls do stupid stuffs like that. First of all, she is being rude to me when I called her for the first time. The second time, she cancelled dates. This is really pissing me off. So I've decided to check if she's being honest or if she's lying. Here's what I did. I told her that there is an accident at her aunt's area causing terrible traffic jam and asked if she sees it or not. She replied "Yes" and I caught her lying.

I cussed the hell out of her and scolded her with vulgar words.!! And all she did was admit she was playing games with me and laughed out loudly..... She even asked me out for Sat since she said I was so desperate. F-U-C-K THAT B|TCH!!!!! I am very angry now!!!!!!!! I am going punish her back by failing to show up on the Sat's date.! Sweet revenge! :D
 

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Hey Sly,

Its not you, it's her. Incredibly rude! Personally I greatly dislike rudeness, especially in women. Tell her to f... off and find a decent woman



Cheers ;)
 

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I am being a real AFC here cause I am so desperate

Originally posted by Starman
dude, you should tattoo AFC on your forehead
I can no longer tolerate being alone and single. It is driving me f*cking nuts........and this is where I screwed up. My desperation is driving me to do silly things I shouldn't be doing. ARGH!!!
 

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Originally posted by SlyDonJuan
Take a look at this. Does this signalled needyness/ desperation and etc?

Sly : Hey it's me here. (Calling a girl on the phone to ask her out)

HB : What do you want?

Sly : I have friends going out on Fri night to clubs. Come along and join us please.

Leave out the "please", it's whiny

HB : I'm busy so I am not going.

Sly : Allright, that's too bad. Maybe some other time.

Better

HB : We shall see.

Sly : Make sure you come the next time if we're out....

"PLEASE SLEEP WITH ME, I'M DESPERATE" would have been a tad less obvious that your approach

HB : We shall see.

Trans: "You're a desperate creep, no way"

Sly : Bye

HB : (Slammed the phone without saying bye or anything)

You're a desperate creep, why should she be polite?

Okay, so two days ago I called her and asked her out again. She agreed. Today is suppose to be our date and guess what, she cancelled at the last min when I was about to walk out of that f*cking door. She gave a stupid excuse saying that her aunt is so sick that she needs to be over to her house to look after her.

Why did you expect different after that 1st phone call?

See..........I hate it when girls do stupid stuffs like that. First of all, she is being rude to me when I called her for the first time.

Yeah, cos you came off sounding like Mr. Chumpy Chump - no wonder she doesn't give a damn about you.

The second time, she cancelled dates. This is really pissing me off. So I've decided to check if she's being honest or if she's lying. Here's what I did. I told her that there is an accident at her aunt's area causing terrible traffic jam and asked if she sees it or not. She replied "Yes" and I caught her lying.

Ok, now this is going from bad to worse - what a sad, pathetic thing to do. Are you trolling? I find it hard to believe that you have read anything on this site if you do something like this.

I cussed the hell out of her and scolded her with vulgar words.!!

Wow, way to go man. That'll get her in the sack.

And all she did was admit she was playing games with me and laughed out loudly..... She even asked me out for Sat since she said I was so desperate.

Yeah, I hear her...

F-U-C-K THAT B|TCH!!!!!

You may have, if you didn't make about 3 million basic mistakes above. Ah well, maybe next time...

I am very angry now!!!!!!!! I am going punish her back by failing to show up on the Sat's date.!

... or maybe not

Sweet revenge! :D


Yeah, sure, if she ever intended in showing in the first place.

You know, she was actually not that nice to you, and normally I would have sympathy for someone in your situation.

However, you have acted like such a child that it's hard to do anything but laugh, and hope that you learn something from the site. If you don't, well, big loss for the gene pool.

Grow up.

Oscar.
 

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Re: I am being a real AFC here cause I am so desperate

Originally posted by SlyDonJuan
I can no longer tolerate being alone and single. It is driving me f*cking nuts........and this is where I screwed up. My desperation is driving me to do silly things I shouldn't be doing. ARGH!!!
That phone call should have been enough to never call her again. She has no interest in you, and every time you call her you lower yourself even further. That's why she has no problem with and feels no remorse for disrespecting you so badly. Even testing her was AFC behavior. You knew she wasn't interested and was giving you a lame excuse. Move on. If you respect yourself, you'll never call her again, and if she calls you, you'll hang up immediately. You really need to work on yourself before you try to get any more girls.
 

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yo sly,

yes, Lonliness can be a b1tch..Ive seen people do some strange things in the name of love

but do you think a girl that belittles and disrespects you like this can fill that void?
or make you feel worse about yourself?

Hire a damn escort..hang around your faMILY AND friends..buy a dog..there are many ways to fill the emotional void besides a woman.
 

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Re: Re: Acting needy/desperate and lots more like a chump!!!!!

Originally posted by Oscar Wilde
Originally posted by SlyDonJuan
Take a look at this. Does this signalled needyness/ desperation and etc?

Sly : Hey it's me here. (Calling a girl on the phone to ask her out)

HB : What do you want?

Sly : I have friends going out on Fri night to clubs. Come along and join us please.

Leave out the "please", it's whiny

HB : I'm busy so I am not going.

Sly : Allright, that's too bad. Maybe some other time.

Better

HB : We shall see.

Sly : Make sure you come the next time if we're out....

"PLEASE SLEEP WITH ME, I'M DESPERATE" would have been a tad less obvious that your approach

HB : We shall see.

Trans: "You're a desperate creep, no way"

Sly : Bye

HB : (Slammed the phone without saying bye or anything)

You're a desperate creep, why should she be polite?

Okay, so two days ago I called her and asked her out again. She agreed. Today is suppose to be our date and guess what, she cancelled at the last min when I was about to walk out of that f*cking door. She gave a stupid excuse saying that her aunt is so sick that she needs to be over to her house to look after her.

Why did you expect different after that 1st phone call?

See..........I hate it when girls do stupid stuffs like that. First of all, she is being rude to me when I called her for the first time.

Yeah, cos you came off sounding like Mr. Chumpy Chump - no wonder she doesn't give a damn about you.

The second time, she cancelled dates. This is really pissing me off. So I've decided to check if she's being honest or if she's lying. Here's what I did. I told her that there is an accident at her aunt's area causing terrible traffic jam and asked if she sees it or not. She replied "Yes" and I caught her lying.

Ok, now this is going from bad to worse - what a sad, pathetic thing to do. Are you trolling? I find it hard to believe that you have read anything on this site if you do something like this.

I cussed the hell out of her and scolded her with vulgar words.!!

Wow, way to go man. That'll get her in the sack.

And all she did was admit she was playing games with me and laughed out loudly..... She even asked me out for Sat since she said I was so desperate.

Yeah, I hear her...

F-U-C-K THAT B|TCH!!!!!

You may have, if you didn't make about 3 million basic mistakes above. Ah well, maybe next time...

I am very angry now!!!!!!!! I am going punish her back by failing to show up on the Sat's date.!

... or maybe not

Sweet revenge! :D


Yeah, sure, if she ever intended in showing in the first place.

You know, she was actually not that nice to you, and normally I would have sympathy for someone in your situation.

However, you have acted like such a child that it's hard to do anything but laugh, and hope that you learn something from the site. If you don't, well, big loss for the gene pool.

Grow up.

Oscar.
I was completely pissed off over what she has done. Now why wouldn't you put yourself in my shoes and applauded me for even thinking of revenge?
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude, chill man, here are the phayzes guys go through before they come the men they want to be according to Pook,...

Pook, did you get these from Shakespare? "As you like it"??
Act 2 Scene 7
"All the worlds a stage..."
"...His acts being seven ages. At first the infant..."

I believe them to be true

1. Nice Guy
2. Turn to sicence, and Philosophy (and sites like these) for answers to why "being yourself" didn't work.
3. Jerk Stage (you still don't know but you feel so frustrated that you just hate everyone and everything, espeicially those who are happy)
4. Speed Seducer (you say, if i can't beat them, i'll join them...and start to play "their" game, all while the ones you want would never fall for this kind of guy)

5. Challenge Guy (the type of guy who has no problem wait and take thing slow, and i mean sloooooowwww)

6. Fun and Crazy guy (challenge guy got too boring, so you said **** it and just began to have fun while you still harbor knowledge of the speed seducer)

7. Transcendant (no longer and thirst for women or a wife, you realize time is flying by and you need to get the show on the road, it is at this point when when women begin to chase you, because you are a rare commodity you have goals which make you a challenge, have the wit of a friend, and the sensitivity of a nice guy, you are single which makes you want to improve yourself all the time making you "mysterious" Leaving little time for much else.


Do yourself a favor, and skip all the way to number seven, you'll save u'rself a lot of time and effort.

There is no teacher like experience. That is not to say Experience is always the best teacher.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Acting needy/desperate and lots more like a chump!!!!!

Originally posted by SlyDonJuan
I was completely pissed off over what she has done. Now why wouldn't you put yourself in my shoes and applauded me for even thinking of revenge?
Read my previous post. It was a waste of your time. You can't get revenge on somebody who cares so much less than you do. She has no respect at all for you, and was probably never planning to show up for the next date either. Think about it. She doesn't want you, so why would she spend her time with you. She seems to enjoy the power and control you give her or she would never have accepted the first date, knowing she didn't plan to keep it. Do you think she's going to be hurt that you don't keep the date, when she never wanted to date you in the first place? I repeat. You can't get revenge on somebody who doesn't give a damn about you. The only thing you can do is to respect yourself enough to forget that she ever existed. Every second you spend thinking about her is wasting your time. Guaranteed she isn't thinking about you. There isn't anything positive you can ever get from her except enough kicks in the nuts to make you realize you're going about it all wrong.

You really need to work on yourself first. De-prioritize girls. Acquire interests and hobbies that you really enjoy. Work out. Read the DJ Bible and work on the various parts. With your current mindset and attitude, every girl you meet is going to walk all over you. You don't respect yourself, so you can't command respect. I'm sorry to be so harsh, but it's because what you're doing is so harmful to you, and you don't seem to be getting it.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Acting needy/desperate and lots more like a chump!!!!!

Originally posted by Quick
Read my previous post. It was a waste of your time. You can't get revenge on somebody who cares so much less than you do. She has no respect at all for you, and was probably never planning to show up for the next date either. Think about it. She doesn't want you, so why would she spend her time with you. She seems to enjoy the power and control you give her or she would never have accepted the first date, knowing she didn't plan to keep it. Do you think she's going to be hurt that you don't keep the date, when she never wanted to date you in the first place? I repeat. You can't get revenge on somebody who doesn't give a damn about you. The only thing you can do is to respect yourself enough to forget that she ever existed. Every second you spend thinking about her is wasting your time. Guaranteed she isn't thinking about you. There isn't anything positive you can ever get from her except enough kicks in the nuts to make you realize you're going about it all wrong.

You really need to work on yourself first. De-prioritize girls. Acquire interests and hobbies that you really enjoy. Work out. Read the DJ Bible and work on the various parts. With your current mindset and attitude, every girl you meet is going to walk all over you. You don't respect yourself, so you can't command respect. I'm sorry to be so harsh, but it's because what you're doing is so harmful to you, and you don't seem to be getting it.
I get what you mean. I am completely pissed off that I couldn't think straight now. I need to take a break and then come back to review what went wrong. Just like the guys said, you shouldn't have go to her when she has rejected you. It is like asking for more beating up.! But right now, I cannot forget the resentment. I am afraid it will turn into a kind of obsession that I will do something harmful to her. I need to take revenge now and make sure she suffers the price for what she has done. Either I stood her up, or I asked her out with my male friends and make her a fool in front of us.

Sweet revenge. :D
 

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Dude are you that infantile that you dont think whatever kind of stunt you pull to make her look bad..she will KNOW you are just doing it because she dissed you?

The greatest revenge you can take is to ignore her completely and never look back..at least leave some kind of mystery in her mind like there was something wrong with her that you suddenly lost interest.
 

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SlyDonJuan,

The advice that many of previous posters gave "sounds" like the right thing to do. But from personal experience I know it is HARD to just let things go after you've been hurt.

I'm not one that believes in offering trite remarks, but I do know that time does heal all wounds.

*The best thing for you to do is completely ignore her. Never call or speak to her again no matter what. Just pretend like she doesn't even exist anymore.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Acting needy/desperate and lots more like a chump!!!!!

Originally posted by SlyDonJuan
I get what you mean. I am completely pissed off that I couldn't think straight now. I need to take a break and then come back to review what went wrong. Just like the guys said, you shouldn't have go to her when she has rejected you. It is like asking for more beating up.! But right now, I cannot forget the resentment. I am afraid it will turn into a kind of obsession that I will do something harmful to her. I need to take revenge now and make sure she suffers the price for what she has done. Either I stood her up, or I asked her out with my male friends and make her a fool in front of us.

Sweet revenge. :D

By continuing to post on this subject you have implicitly asked for our advice, so I shall give it to you straight, once more.

Quit acting like such a childish, chumpy, nasty, clingy, resentful gimp!

Is this your true personality? No wonder she doesn't want anything to do with you. All you can think about is revenge?

Get over it. Move on. NEXT.

By participating in this vengence seeking you are confirming that she was correct in dissing you, because you are scum of the earth. And she will tell everyone she knows.

If you do not seek revenge, well then at least she may think "hey, that guy is pretty cool, maybe I made a mistake".

Which is the better result?
 

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Revenge... the hallmark of an AFC. Move on. I almost did it too with a girl once, but then it would've totally given away how affected I was by her rude behavior. I ended up not taking time to make revenge coz I was too busy at the time, and the window of oppurtunity passed. In retrospect I am glad.
 
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MAN, IT WASN'T YOU AT ALL!

She was a total b1tch on the phone obviously, why the hell did you even ask her out on a date again or whatever.....I should put her in a piledriver!

A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF: GIRLS LIE!!!!!

i ****in hate it when they say that we lie.....why don't you just die!!
 

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Now why wouldn't you put yourself in my shoes and applauded me for even thinking of revenge?
Several reasons:

1.) Because it's a total waste of time. Time that you should be spending working on finding a chick with a genuine interest in you. Time that should be spent working on your own issues, which appear to be deep-seated.

2.) Because revenge like that serves no valid purpose. It doesn't further your life goals one bit. It won't make you feel any better about yourself.

3.) Because it makes you seem like a needy, bitter person that no girl in her right mind would go out with.

Ditch all that anger bro. As long as you act that way you're not gonna do well with the ladies; that's just a fact.
 

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Originally posted by Adr3nalin
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude, chill man, here are the phayzes guys go through before they come the men they want to be according to Pook,...

Pook, did you get these from Shakespare? "As you like it"??
Act 2 Scene 7
"All the worlds a stage..."
"...His acts being seven ages. At first the infant..."

I believe them to be true

1. Nice Guy
2. Turn to sicence, and Philosophy (and sites like these) for answers to why "being yourself" didn't work.
3. Jerk Stage (you still don't know but you feel so frustrated that you just hate everyone and everything, espeicially those who are happy)
4. Speed Seducer (you say, if i can't beat them, i'll join them...and start to play "their" game, all while the ones you want would never fall for this kind of guy)

5. Challenge Guy (the type of guy who has no problem wait and take thing slow, and i mean sloooooowwww)

6. Fun and Crazy guy (challenge guy got too boring, so you said **** it and just began to have fun while you still harbor knowledge of the speed seducer)

7. Transcendant (no longer and thirst for women or a wife, you realize time is flying by and you need to get the show on the road, it is at this point when when women begin to chase you, because you are a rare commodity you have goals which make you a challenge, have the wit of a friend, and the sensitivity of a nice guy, you are single which makes you want to improve yourself all the time making you "mysterious" Leaving little time for much else.


Do yourself a favor, and skip all the way to number seven, you'll save u'rself a lot of time and effort.

There is no teacher like experience. That is not to say Experience is always the best teacher.

Nice post. I think I bounce back and forth between 5 and 7.

I don;t think you can just SKIP to number 7. I think the point is that you generally have to work your way there.
 

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Originally posted by Adr3nalin



7. Transcendant (no longer and thirst for women or a wife, you realize time is flying by and you need to get the show on the road, it is at this point when when women begin to chase you, because you are a rare commodity you have goals which make you a challenge, have the wit of a friend, and the sensitivity of a nice guy, you are single which makes you want to improve yourself all the time making you "mysterious" Leaving little time for much else.


I believe Number 7 is known in laymen's terms as 'turning 30'. :D
 
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