"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Accidental wingman

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I’m going to wing someone who is a recent acquaintance. He’s a friendly guy. I have a GF, so it’s strictly about him and one of my long time buddies. I haven’t successfully winged in over a decade. They’re average looking & I facemog both of them. Other than encourage them to go talk to girls, what techniques could I use?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The point of being a wingman is basically a support buddy to not let you look like a lame guy out alone at a bar. I can run solo cause I dont care, but for most guys, it's a good way to "validate" yourself socially. A guy who is alone must be a creeper is what a lot of girls and guys are likely thinking.
 

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I’m an old pro at this.
Around women, defer to your friend.
Laugh at his stupid jokes and basically appear as if you’re sucking up to him.

When there’s time away from women, let him know how things seem to be playing out and also build his confidence about the situation (if you’re able).

I’ve found that even if they have no game, appear to have low self-esteem or just plain socially awkward… our actions (the pretend behavior) will by contrast make them look more appealing.

I’ve had pretty good success with the above, but they have to *want* to pick up a gal.
I’ve had some friends still licking their wounds from a break up or separation and being their wingman was useless.
 
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I’m going to wing someone who is a recent acquaintance. He’s a friendly guy. I have a GF, so it’s strictly about him and one of my long time buddies. I haven’t successfully winged in over a decade. They’re average looking & I facemog both of them. Other than encourage them to go talk to girls, what techniques could I use?
How did it go?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Monday was a bust. Very few people showed up at the venue. Well…that’s Monday for ya.
 

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got my incel buddy to go into the Big Bad City., Lots of SMV 5 girls. They shot down every guy who hit on them. I got no play. Nor did my buddy. eventually, I wound up with a chick named 'Jade' from, Philly. We fondled each other, and exchanged #s, nothing more. My 'Cel; friend Vanished. my Zoomer ex- then called and wanted the D, but I was too drunk to drive the 30 miles (she has no car). What was astonishing was the indifference the women had towards the men that mack'd on them. I haven't been gaming since '19. but it seems women are even more indifferent to men now. Jade was a toughie, and she made me work. Fortunetly, when I got home, I called the GF and told her I loved her. Kudos to the Bros who are fighting the good fight.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I think girls do not go to the club to get laid so much anymore since there exists tinder now.
 

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I think girls do not go to the club to get laid so much anymore since there exists tinder now.
Women still go out to get laid. They have more options, but they are all there looking for the one hope of a guy to sweep them off their feet. They wouldn't dress up and go out in droves during the weekend otherwise. They go out cause we boys go out. Attention is validation, but sex is the ultimate validation.
 

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Women still go out to get laid. They have more options, but they are all there looking for the one hope of a guy to sweep them off their feet. They wouldn't dress up and go out in droves during the weekend otherwise. They go out cause we boys go out. Attention is validation, but sex is the ultimate validation.

I agree that women go out to get laid, but bars and nightclubs have been replaced by Tinder/Hinge/Bumble to some extent.

You can think of what Tinder/Hinge/Bumble have done to nightlife in the same way as what Amazon has done to the malls and much of physical retail store visits.
 

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I agree that women go out to get laid, but bars and nightclubs have been replaced by Tinder/Hinge/Bumble to some extent.

You can think of what Tinder/Hinge/Bumble have done to nightlife in the same way as what Amazon has done to the malls and much of physical retail store visits.
Which sucks cause just like buying from online vs a physical location, I like seeing how stuff is up close and personal. Having them actually in my hand. Instead, bumble and such lead to lots of catfishing.
 

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I’m an old pro at this.
Around women, defer to your friend.
Laugh at his stupid jokes and basically appear as if you’re sucking up to him.

When there’s time away from women, let him know how things seem to be playing out and also build his confidence about the situation (if you’re able).

I’ve found that even if they have no game, appear to have low self-esteem or just plain socially awkward… our actions (the pretend behavior) will by contrast make them look more appealing.

I’ve had pretty good success with the above, but they have to *want* to pick up a gal.
I’ve had some friends still licking their wounds from a break up or separation and being their wingman was useless.
How long have you been in the game ?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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