Aaron Clarey: Women Would Choose Extinction Over Beta Males

[BergischerLöwe]

I don’t do online dating anymore but when I did I actually got decent matches. I do notice what you’re talking about though.

I wish I could meet women without dating but it's never happened for me like that and I'm 27

 

[Robert28]

I wish I could meet women without dating but it's never happened for me like that and I'm 27

Just keep in mind that the women who are online dating are the ones that nobody else wants. So you’ll be double frustrated.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Just keep in mind that the women who are online dating are the ones that nobody else wants. So you’ll be double frustrated.

I've literally never gotten with a girl I've first met irl and I have no way of meeting women irl. Cold approach wouldn't work for somebody like me, my social circle isn't conducive to meeting women, all my hobbies are a sausage fest. There's never been a way I could meet women irl and at this point it's never gonna change. What's a guy like me to do? I'm literally forced to meet women thru apps and that's how it's been my entire adult life. It's all I know and without apps I would still be a virgin. But now apps don't work for me anymore either. I feel like in the off chance I were to meet a dateable woman irl and actually get with her, she'd have to approach me and women literally never do that. Also I feel like if there's a girl out there who's a really good match with me, she's either already going steady with someone else or she spends most of her time chillin at home. I'm sick of being forced to use apps. I'm just talking in circles on this forum at this point, this one post sums up 90% of what I've been saying on here. Nobody on this forum has even come close to offering me a viable, realistic, implementable solution to solve this problem. What do I actually do? It feels like my only two options are "keep swiping on apps and hope and pray I get lucky enough to match with a woman who's what I'm looking for" (very unlikely to happen) or "Make peace with never having a satisfying love life and learn to accept being alone".

 

[CornbreadFed]

Right now I'm struggling to even get good matches. The convos usually fizz out very quickly but most of the time I don't get a reply at all

If you are bold enough, I would suggest posting your pictures and your biography because I don't know what you look like. If not, pay some OLD dating guru or something to review your profile. OR you can do this, make a fake Chad profile and see if that gets you matches. If you are getting lit up then it is your profile, if you do not see a difference then it's your territory/app.

Also, it is possible to be successful in OLD if you put the work in. I have gotten laid off Tinder in literally Montana and Saskatchewan, so it is possible.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

If you are bold enough, I would suggest posting your pictures and your biography because I don't know what you look like. If not, pay some OLD dating guru or something to review your profile. OR you can do this, make a fake Chad profile and see if that gets you matches. If you are getting lit up then it is your profile, if you do not see a difference then it's your territory/app.

Also, it is possible to be successful in OLD if you put the work in. I have gotten laid off Tinder in literally Montana and Saskatchewan, so it is possible.

I wouldn't publicly post pics of myself on here. The idea of paying someone to look at my profile and review it seems kinda weird, but if it means getting better matches I might try it. I'm not ugly but I definitely have more of a niche look, I look like I could have been in a rock n roll band in the 60s/70s if that gives you some idea

 

[CornbreadFed]

I wouldn't publicly post pics of myself on here. The idea of paying someone to look at my profile and review it seems kinda weird, but if it means getting better matches I might try it. I'm not ugly but I definitely have more of a niche look, I look like I could have been in a rock n roll band in the 60s/70s if that gives you some idea

Well try the Chad profile first to see if it is your market or your pictures or switch your location to a major US city like NYC or something.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Well try the Chad profile first to see if it is your market or your pictures or switch your location to a major US city like NYC or something.

I don't think it's necessary to make a fake profile. No matter what I need to improve my profile. Still tho I have better pics than ever on there but still nothing as of late. It didn't even make any difference

 

[CornbreadFed]

I don't think it's necessary to make a fake profile. No matter what I need to improve my profile. Still tho I have better pics than ever on there but still nothing as of late. It didn't even make any difference

If you had decent pictures, then you would be getting matches.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

If you had decent pictures, then you would be getting matches.

Well for what it's worth very few women of apps have anything in common with me, and maybe my look is too niche for a lot of them anyway. Sometimes I've matched with girls who were really into me but they weren't as attractive, maybe like 5-6 out of ten. Most of the girls I match with I never meet up with because I'm not so sure about their looks. It's like there's an artificial ceiling keeping me from getting attention from 7s who still have a nice body and a nice rack, instead any attention on there that I get is mainly from 5s and 6s who are slightly overweight. In general I'm not very attracted to the women I usually attract, although they're not hideous they're still a tier or tho below me in looks, and I refuse to settle for that. I've done it before and each time I felt awful, it's like using somebody for sex. Especially when they're really into you but you just don't have the same feelings

 

[CjXo]

Still tho, are women really attracted to these unmasculine nerdy guys who still play nintendo and collect funkopops? Never thought in a million years that my biggest "competition" in the dating scene would be these types. I have no idea what I can do against this phenomenon

I have 4 sisters(none westerners tho)women after a certain age actually prefer AFC/beta simps who cater to them. R u giving off too much handsome swagged out playa vibes??

on the other hand, if you still experiencing this on dating apps im going to assume it’s your photos/profile. Or maybe your location???

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

When I first went down the rabbit hole I paternity tested my children. They’re both 99.9xxx matches for me. I had no reason to think there’s been malfeasance, did it anyway.

Have you taken a paternity test before?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Wow brother WHAT YOU JUST SAID BELOW IS PLATINUM.

For others reading this: stop and read that to yourselves a few times. Either the light bulb will flicker or not.

Thank you Solomon.

Do you think guys who do well with women are complaining about them? hell no lmfao

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I have 4 sisters,(none westerners tho)women after a certain age actually prefer AFC/beta simps who cater to them. R u giving off too much handsome swagged out playa vibes??

Honestly I'm pretty introverted most of the time but I probably give out a more masculine vibe relative to the sorts of guys I was talking about. Like I said I lift weights and play rock n roll and I'm fairly jacked, though I could stand to lose some bodyfat. I'm usually pretty reserved in social situations though without a doubt I come across as more masculine as far as my appearance and bearing. That said I don't seem to have much charisma

 

[CornbreadFed]

When I first went down the rabbit hole I paternity tested my children. They’re both 99.9xxx matches for me. I had no reason to think there’s been malfeasance, did it anyway.

According to @FlexpertHamilton, you are a unicorn.

Well for what it's worth very few women of apps have anything in common with me, and maybe my look is too niche for a lot of them anyway. Sometimes I've matched with girls who were really into me but they weren't as attractive, maybe like 5-6 out of ten. Most of the girls I match with I never meet up with because I'm not so sure about their looks. It's like there's an artificial ceiling keeping me from getting attention from 7s who still have a nice body and a nice rack, instead any attention on there that I get is mainly from 5s and 6s who are slightly overweight. In general I'm not very attracted to the women I usually attract, although they're not hideous they're still a tier or tho below me in looks, and I refuse to settle for that. I've done it before and each time I felt awful, it's like using somebody for sex. Especially when they're really into you but you just don't have the same feelings

The sooner you admit you don't have attractive photos, the sooner you can meet hotter women.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

]The sooner you admit you don't have attractive photos, the sooner you can meet hotter women.

I don't think the pics is the main reason I'm stuck

 

[CornbreadFed]

I don't think the pics is the main reason I'm stuck

I am one of the few posters on this board that has a positive outlook on the apps. I am just giving you my insight to help you lol.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I am one of the few posters on this board that has a positive outlook on the apps. I am just giving you my insight to help you lol.

I feel like there's only so much I can do to improve my profile. The algorithm is likely working against me, and since I'm more of a niche guy I'm probably not what most women are looking for. Like I said I don't have much in common with the women I see on apps. I really don't

 

[CornbreadFed]

I feel like there's only so much I can do to improve my profile. The algorithm is likely working against me, and since I'm more of a niche guy I'm probably not what most women are looking for. Like I said I don't have much in common with the women I see on apps. I really don't

The whole algorithm is against me is bull crap. Everything in this post, I made the same excuses when I was struggling with the apps. Trust me, you are not the exception to any rule. The only guys that can make excuses are midgets or guys that look like Clickers in the face. Otherwise, every guy has a gameplan available to them. I just noticed that you said you could lose a bit of bodyfat. Try aiming for 10% BF since you are single.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

The whole algorithm is against me is bull crap. Everything in this post, I made the same excuses when I was struggling with the apps. Trust me, you are not the exception to any rule. The only guys that can make excuses are midgets or guys that look like Clickers in the face. Otherwise, every guy has a gameplan available to them.

Well idk if the algorithm thing is true but it really is the case that I almost always have little or nothing in common with the women on dating apps

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The whole algorithm is against me is bull crap. Everything in this post, I made the same excuses when I was struggling with the apps. Trust me, you are not the exception to any rule. The only guys that can make excuses are midgets or guys that look like Clickers in the face. Otherwise, every guy has a gameplan available to them. I just noticed that you said you could lose a bit of bodyfat. Try aiming for 10% BF since you are single.

Being useful here, @BergischerLöwe would have to restart his profile to reset his ELO, make it as *broadly* attractive as possible, and then niche it down (change back to the old bio/pics) once his new ELO (or whatever algo the app uses) is established.