"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A wow quality woman demanding the earth

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Hi guys,

In regards to pof women and recent experience, in my travels I've come across possibly the worst POF female profile yet.

This woman is a 6 at best with a lot of low quality traits, yet in her profile she pretty much demands the earth. She even has screenshots mocking men trying the message her.

I don't get the mindset of them! They think the sun shines out of their but when they really are nothing special!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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phil2015 said:
In regards to pof women and recent experience, in my travels I've come across possibly the worst POF female profile yet.

This woman is a 6 at best with a lot of low quality traits, yet in her profile she pretty much demands the earth. She even has screenshots mocking men trying the message her.
I see these once in a while, but this one absolutely took the cake for me:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/andrea_b?cf=profile
 

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lets see the link. id love to read it.
 

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Link doesn't work
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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GS750 said:
Link doesn't work
Sorry. Here's the "meat" of the one I posted...

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I love to laugh, and I value empathy, compassion, silliness, and groundedness. I am open-minded, honest, and loyal. I enjoy helping people feel joyful and comfortable. I'm a social justice activist, and intersectionality is important to me as a feminist. My interests include homesteading, sustainable living, birth, herbalism, survivalism, homeopathy, sci-fi, and creating stuff. If you're into Myers-Briggs, I'm an INFP.

I am in a polyamorous relationship with fsonj and identify as queer. We have two children. We're seeking someone that would like to eventually be considered a part of our family. I would also love to add more children into our family either by blending families or birth, or both.

We are welcoming to all kinds of people; EVERYONE is safe here! Well, maybe not racists and MRAs, but everyone else. lol

I like animals best when they live outside, not inside. (Farm!) I have allergy issues with indoor animals.

I am a hedge witch, and tend to make note of, and occasionally celebrate, the sabbats and esbats. However, I feel there are probably many things that folks believe are supernatural that could likely be explained scientifically if we had the capabilities to do so.

I am a fat, somewhat furry womyn, and I'm bra-free unless I'm riding a horse or it's a "special occasion". Though I would enjoy it, I'm not a very athletic person because of chronic pain/fatigue from Fibromyalgia. I am quite sensitive to artificial scent (e.g.: perfume, scented lotions, scented laundry detergents/fabric softeners, hairspray, commercial deodorants/antiperspirants, air freshener, commercial cleaning products, bug spray, etc.) and many other lab-created chemicals, so I can't date anyone who's really into that stuff, but I can help them out with products if they'd like to lead a more natural, scent-free lifestyle.

I follow the attachment model of parenting (authoritative, NOT permissive!). As far as babies/toddlers go, I'm into natural pregnancy and birth, breastfeeding until self-weaning, babywearing, co-sleeping, intact immune systems, and intact bodies. With kids, I practice free-range parenting, unschooling, natural/logical consequences, limiting "screen time" (including trying not to model screen addiction), and including children in everyday life (e.g.: being involved in their play when they want it, letting them branch out and do their own thing, acquiring their help with domestic duties, teaching them to help children younger than themselves, gardening, regular conversation, etc.). Basically, I like to treat my kids like thinking, feeling people, rather than "something to be dealt with". Feel free to ask if you'd like to know more!
 

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Wow...sounds like a whackjob.
 

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What is the point of this thread? Also why does it matter what she looks like? Would it be acceptable to you for her to "demand the earth" if she were a "10"?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Desdinova said:
Sorry. Here's the "meat" of the one I posted...

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I love to laugh, and I value empathy, compassion, silliness, and groundedness. I am open-minded, honest, and loyal. I enjoy helping people feel joyful and comfortable. I'm a social justice activist, and intersectionality is important to me as a feminist. My interests include homesteading, sustainable living, birth, herbalism, survivalism, homeopathy, sci-fi, and creating stuff. If you're into Myers-Briggs, I'm an INFP.

I am in a polyamorous relationship with fsonj and identify as queer. We have two children. We're seeking someone that would like to eventually be considered a part of our family. I would also love to add more children into our family either by blending families or birth, or both.

We are welcoming to all kinds of people; EVERYONE is safe here! Well, maybe not racists and MRAs, but everyone else. lol

I like animals best when they live outside, not inside. (Farm!) I have allergy issues with indoor animals.

I am a hedge witch, and tend to make note of, and occasionally celebrate, the sabbats and esbats. However, I feel there are probably many things that folks believe are supernatural that could likely be explained scientifically if we had the capabilities to do so.

I am a fat, somewhat furry womyn, and I'm bra-free unless I'm riding a horse or it's a "special occasion". Though I would enjoy it, I'm not a very athletic person because of chronic pain/fatigue from Fibromyalgia. I am quite sensitive to artificial scent (e.g.: perfume, scented lotions, scented laundry detergents/fabric softeners, hairspray, commercial deodorants/antiperspirants, air freshener, commercial cleaning products, bug spray, etc.) and many other lab-created chemicals, so I can't date anyone who's really into that stuff, but I can help them out with products if they'd like to lead a more natural, scent-free lifestyle.

I follow the attachment model of parenting (authoritative, NOT permissive!). As far as babies/toddlers go, I'm into natural pregnancy and birth, breastfeeding until self-weaning, babywearing, co-sleeping, intact immune systems, and intact bodies. With kids, I practice free-range parenting, unschooling, natural/logical consequences, limiting "screen time" (including trying not to model screen addiction), and including children in everyday life (e.g.: being involved in their play when they want it, letting them branch out and do their own thing, acquiring their help with domestic duties, teaching them to help children younger than themselves, gardening, regular conversation, etc.). Basically, I like to treat my kids like thinking, feeling people, rather than "something to be dealt with". Feel free to ask if you'd like to know more!
That's the weirdest, most creepy fvcking thing I've read in a long @$$ time. And I've seen and read some weird sh!t.
 

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phil2015 said:
She's not bad to be honest. Pretty decent body. 2 things stand out to me though right away. 1). I'll bet anyone that ISN'T her cousin. If it is you have to wonder just how "close" they are. 2). Why doesn't she show her teeth in any of her pics when she smiles? Even her blonde friend won't smile and show her teeth. Makes me wonder if they're yellow, gapped, or missing.
 

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Fûckin whacky ass bîtch, son.
 

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Robert28 said:
That's the weirdest, most creepy fvcking thing I've read in a long @$$ time. And I've seen and read some weird sh!t.
I feel like an ass for laughing at that woman, I mean at least she's being herself I guess... but good lord, how can she be serious. What a f*cking nightmare.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Best thing you can do with AWs is ignore them and don't rise to the bait. Let the chodes make themselves look bad by talking to them.
 

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Why do women create ridiculous rules for finding a man?

Its because american women know how much they are worth when they look pretty so the sky is the limit for what they want in a guy because there always some lunatic dude who will try to fit their ridiculous standards.

But once a woman turns into their late 30s when their looks start to vanish and no longer compete with the chicks that she once was, they start begging for d!ck from any guy who is decent because these women know they are no longer worth what they were. The problem for those women are, the decent men who are at least average intelligence already found a good life without these greedy and very hipocritical women.

Pump and dump boys.
 
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