"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A wow quality woman demanding the earth

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Hi guys,

In regards to pof women and recent experience, in my travels I've come across possibly the worst POF female profile yet.

This woman is a 6 at best with a lot of low quality traits, yet in her profile she pretty much demands the earth. She even has screenshots mocking men trying the message her.

I don't get the mindset of them! They think the sun shines out of their but when they really are nothing special!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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phil2015 said:
In regards to pof women and recent experience, in my travels I've come across possibly the worst POF female profile yet.

This woman is a 6 at best with a lot of low quality traits, yet in her profile she pretty much demands the earth. She even has screenshots mocking men trying the message her.
I see these once in a while, but this one absolutely took the cake for me:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/andrea_b?cf=profile
 

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lets see the link. id love to read it.
 

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Link doesn't work
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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GS750 said:
Link doesn't work
Sorry. Here's the "meat" of the one I posted...

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I love to laugh, and I value empathy, compassion, silliness, and groundedness. I am open-minded, honest, and loyal. I enjoy helping people feel joyful and comfortable. I'm a social justice activist, and intersectionality is important to me as a feminist. My interests include homesteading, sustainable living, birth, herbalism, survivalism, homeopathy, sci-fi, and creating stuff. If you're into Myers-Briggs, I'm an INFP.

I am in a polyamorous relationship with fsonj and identify as queer. We have two children. We're seeking someone that would like to eventually be considered a part of our family. I would also love to add more children into our family either by blending families or birth, or both.

We are welcoming to all kinds of people; EVERYONE is safe here! Well, maybe not racists and MRAs, but everyone else. lol

I like animals best when they live outside, not inside. (Farm!) I have allergy issues with indoor animals.

I am a hedge witch, and tend to make note of, and occasionally celebrate, the sabbats and esbats. However, I feel there are probably many things that folks believe are supernatural that could likely be explained scientifically if we had the capabilities to do so.

I am a fat, somewhat furry womyn, and I'm bra-free unless I'm riding a horse or it's a "special occasion". Though I would enjoy it, I'm not a very athletic person because of chronic pain/fatigue from Fibromyalgia. I am quite sensitive to artificial scent (e.g.: perfume, scented lotions, scented laundry detergents/fabric softeners, hairspray, commercial deodorants/antiperspirants, air freshener, commercial cleaning products, bug spray, etc.) and many other lab-created chemicals, so I can't date anyone who's really into that stuff, but I can help them out with products if they'd like to lead a more natural, scent-free lifestyle.

I follow the attachment model of parenting (authoritative, NOT permissive!). As far as babies/toddlers go, I'm into natural pregnancy and birth, breastfeeding until self-weaning, babywearing, co-sleeping, intact immune systems, and intact bodies. With kids, I practice free-range parenting, unschooling, natural/logical consequences, limiting "screen time" (including trying not to model screen addiction), and including children in everyday life (e.g.: being involved in their play when they want it, letting them branch out and do their own thing, acquiring their help with domestic duties, teaching them to help children younger than themselves, gardening, regular conversation, etc.). Basically, I like to treat my kids like thinking, feeling people, rather than "something to be dealt with". Feel free to ask if you'd like to know more!
 

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Wow...sounds like a whackjob.
 

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What is the point of this thread? Also why does it matter what she looks like? Would it be acceptable to you for her to "demand the earth" if she were a "10"?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Desdinova said:
Sorry. Here's the "meat" of the one I posted...

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I love to laugh, and I value empathy, compassion, silliness, and groundedness. I am open-minded, honest, and loyal. I enjoy helping people feel joyful and comfortable. I'm a social justice activist, and intersectionality is important to me as a feminist. My interests include homesteading, sustainable living, birth, herbalism, survivalism, homeopathy, sci-fi, and creating stuff. If you're into Myers-Briggs, I'm an INFP.

I am in a polyamorous relationship with fsonj and identify as queer. We have two children. We're seeking someone that would like to eventually be considered a part of our family. I would also love to add more children into our family either by blending families or birth, or both.

We are welcoming to all kinds of people; EVERYONE is safe here! Well, maybe not racists and MRAs, but everyone else. lol

I like animals best when they live outside, not inside. (Farm!) I have allergy issues with indoor animals.

I am a hedge witch, and tend to make note of, and occasionally celebrate, the sabbats and esbats. However, I feel there are probably many things that folks believe are supernatural that could likely be explained scientifically if we had the capabilities to do so.

I am a fat, somewhat furry womyn, and I'm bra-free unless I'm riding a horse or it's a "special occasion". Though I would enjoy it, I'm not a very athletic person because of chronic pain/fatigue from Fibromyalgia. I am quite sensitive to artificial scent (e.g.: perfume, scented lotions, scented laundry detergents/fabric softeners, hairspray, commercial deodorants/antiperspirants, air freshener, commercial cleaning products, bug spray, etc.) and many other lab-created chemicals, so I can't date anyone who's really into that stuff, but I can help them out with products if they'd like to lead a more natural, scent-free lifestyle.

I follow the attachment model of parenting (authoritative, NOT permissive!). As far as babies/toddlers go, I'm into natural pregnancy and birth, breastfeeding until self-weaning, babywearing, co-sleeping, intact immune systems, and intact bodies. With kids, I practice free-range parenting, unschooling, natural/logical consequences, limiting "screen time" (including trying not to model screen addiction), and including children in everyday life (e.g.: being involved in their play when they want it, letting them branch out and do their own thing, acquiring their help with domestic duties, teaching them to help children younger than themselves, gardening, regular conversation, etc.). Basically, I like to treat my kids like thinking, feeling people, rather than "something to be dealt with". Feel free to ask if you'd like to know more!
That's the weirdest, most creepy fvcking thing I've read in a long @$$ time. And I've seen and read some weird sh!t.
 

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phil2015 said:
She's not bad to be honest. Pretty decent body. 2 things stand out to me though right away. 1). I'll bet anyone that ISN'T her cousin. If it is you have to wonder just how "close" they are. 2). Why doesn't she show her teeth in any of her pics when she smiles? Even her blonde friend won't smile and show her teeth. Makes me wonder if they're yellow, gapped, or missing.
 

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Fûckin whacky ass bîtch, son.
 

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Robert28 said:
That's the weirdest, most creepy fvcking thing I've read in a long @$$ time. And I've seen and read some weird sh!t.
I feel like an ass for laughing at that woman, I mean at least she's being herself I guess... but good lord, how can she be serious. What a f*cking nightmare.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Best thing you can do with AWs is ignore them and don't rise to the bait. Let the chodes make themselves look bad by talking to them.
 

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Why do women create ridiculous rules for finding a man?

Its because american women know how much they are worth when they look pretty so the sky is the limit for what they want in a guy because there always some lunatic dude who will try to fit their ridiculous standards.

But once a woman turns into their late 30s when their looks start to vanish and no longer compete with the chicks that she once was, they start begging for d!ck from any guy who is decent because these women know they are no longer worth what they were. The problem for those women are, the decent men who are at least average intelligence already found a good life without these greedy and very hipocritical women.

Pump and dump boys.
 
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