"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A Word About Success

Giovanni Casanova

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Have you ever taken Calculus? Even if you haven't, bear with me, I won't give you a math test or anything. I *have* taken calculus. But I didn't start out there. I first had to learn to count. Then, over time, I learned how to add. Then subtract. Soon, it was multiplication and division. Decimals. Fractions. Percentages. Story problems. Geometry. Simple equations. Binomial and trinomial equations. Trig functions. Get the picture yet? You can't just jump from the multiplication and division right into calculus. You start small and eventually end up big.

When you have zero experience with girls, any interaction can be viewed as a success. Imagine that you're so shy that you just can't even think of talking to a girl. Get up your courage and just say "Hi" to a girl. That's a success. Just the simple act of saying hi. Smile, make eye contact. A girl smiles at you? Success. Get comfortable around women. Go up and approach women. Strike up a conversation. Success. Start getting numbers. Success. Get a date. Success. Go for the kiss. Success. I'm sure you're getting the point.

Even the smallest things, like smiling and getting a smile back, are "beginner successes", because you are reaching outside of your normal limitations. You are growing and that is what being a success is all about. Even getting a rejection is a success, because you are now putting yourself on the line and going for it. Getting the rejection is unimportant compared to all of the things that led up to it. If she says, "I'm not interested" or "I have a boyfriend" or "I wouldn't date you in a million years, even if you were the last guy on earth" -- SUCCESS. You did it. You approached her. You found a girl who isn't interested in you, and you're just that much closer to finding one who is. Approaching another girl, after a rejection, is a HUGE success. It proves you can get back in the saddle and you won't let anything hold you down. SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS.

+Special thanks to DeepBlue+




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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
Lazarus Long

"Woman was God's second mistake."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova:
Even getting a rejection is a success, because you are now putting yourself on the line and going for it. Getting the rejection is unimportant compared to all of the things that led up to it. If she says, "I'm not interested" or "I have a boyfriend" or "I wouldn't date you in a million years, even if you were the last guy on earth" -- SUCCESS. You did it. You approached her. You found a girl who isn't interested in you

A perfect example of "The truth shall set you free."
 

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Yes!

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
 

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there's always something positive in negative things!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Originally posted by Ledoyen:
there's always something positive in negative things!
Yes indeed, you can fail a thing and choose:
a: GODDAMN i sucked!, i failed, i fvcked up, now my day is ruined, and you keep whining, being in the bad mood and so on all day. OR
b: Brush the whole ting off after the first shock, then analyse what went wrong, and try to do it better next time. What's done had been done, you cant go back in time and change it, try to have fun the rest of the day.
 

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What if you hate math, flunked Calculus, and barely squeaked a 2 on the Calculus AP? What real life situation does that apply to? Am I... gay?!
 

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Let me share with you something about myself:

Before I came to this site, I was straight out intimidate by girls, I couldn't talk to them other than HI, and they were my classmates! No way I could even imagine look them in the eyes, or even touching them, tried to avoid such things at all cost.

Now from your post I would like to make a simple ladder of progression:

1. Get up my courage and just say "HI" to stranger girl.

2. Smile, make eye contact
3. Get comfortable around them, go up and approach them, strike up a conversation. Do kinos
4. Get rejections
5. Start getting number
6. Get a date.
7. Go for the kiss.
8. Do something more intimate than kisses


Right now I am climbing and reaching the level 5 (and 4).

Just want to let you know that

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I'm not saying I'm number one. Ahh I'm sorry I lied, I'm number one, two three four, AND five

Krs1 - Step into a world


- gSQUYrb (goodSQUYreborn)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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1. Get up my courage and just say "HI" to stranger girl.

2. Smile, make eye contact
3. Get comfortable around them, go up and approach them, strike up a conversation. Do kinos
4. Get rejections
5. Start getting number
6. Get a date.
7. Go for the kiss.
8. Do something more intimate than kisses
That's a damn good graduation.
I have started with the boot camp and got dozens of smiles and hi's back. (1and2)

I then started basically to kino every girls I know when I got an opportunity. I am still improving here, but I am already better then 90% of me mates in this regard. (3)

I also do approch woman whenever I have the balls, which is not too often, but perhaps 1,2 times in a week. Before, I approched about 1 chick in 4 years
(3)

At the moment I am getting numbers and rejections. But it really seems to be periodly. My first approches were all successes and in the last time I only get rejections which makes me kind of happy because I can grow on these ones and have fun. (4and5)

6. I also to managed to get a few dates but me success rate is still pretty low. Out of 10 women I get 7 numbers and perhaps 2 dates.

I am really looking forward to reach the next steps, as these ones are probably the most terrific ones.
 

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Originally posted by Challenger:
6. I also to managed to get a few dates but me success rate is still pretty low. Out of 10 women I get 7 numbers and perhaps 2 dates.
I think this is normal. This is about what I get too. Lots of girls will give you there numbers, and I'm realizing that while getting a number can be a sign of interest, it isn't a definite indicator.

SexPDX had a good post somewhere on how we are all too focused on getting numbers.



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Two more levels:

9. Have some real LTR
10. Live with "the one" happy ever.

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"Our only limitations are those we st up in our own minds"
- Napoleon Hill
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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