Victory Unlimited
Master Don Juan
Great post, LOVELYLADY!
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
jonwon said:An email i got from a girl i am in contact with:
*start
"This is me being very honest and what I look for in a man:-
1. I need the initial attraction (shallow I know but hey it’s my list)
2. Taller than me and not too skinny
3. I like a good conversation and someone that doesn’t talk to my chest is a bonus
4. Sex appeal is very important.. I want to look at him and want him in bed just by looking at him
5. I want him to make me feel like I’m the most important person in the world when with him
6. Someone that cares how I feel and is respectful.. I always think of the person I’m with and I expect the same
7. A man that knows what he wants and has his own life/friends.. Its important to have this I think as I have a full life
8. Great in bed and a real man (This had to feature in my list) lol
*end
You asked her about to articulate, openly " what she looks for in a man".
Do we take it to mean that she is looking for a FB or a man with whom she can have a relationship ?
Let us assume a FB is what she wants. Then #s 2,3,3 6 and 7 are mostly irrelevant.
Alternatively,she may be looking for an LTR with a guy,so where are her requirements for that ? What about 'honesty, involvement, loyalty and good decision making ?
On the surface she appears to be 'clear' about that she wants. However ,we all know two things about women. What they SAY is not usually what they really mean,therefor how much value do we place on her words in that list.
SEcondly, even their most forthright statements still require translation - code breaking...!!!
Look at #6. " Someone who cares about how I feel ......"
Who really knows what women means when they go on about respect ..They place no emotional value on respect as we know it .MOstly they mean that we men should tolerate (without protest) their emotional swirling and swaying and their irrationality and their whining and complaining.... " he should care about how I FEEL ..."
Who knows -who really knows ??
Is this a sexual innuendo?penkitten said:what penkitten wants in her husband:
1. give me the fluffy pillow at night.
the end
Last Man Standing said:Is this a sexual innuendo?![]()
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
cpddavis said:Regarding #2 - All women want a man taller than themselves, but they are committed to the height thing to varying degrees. That said, in a bar pick-up scene, a tall ugly guy with limited game will usually do better than a shorter attractive guy with social skills. It's weird - in the long term that guy doesn't do as well but in a short term situation he's hooking up. Height is a bigger deal to women than looks initially.
I'm a shorter guy (5'8) and this is something I've observed, I don't mope about it and still do fine, but there is definately a significant portion of women who are really adamant about it and not just taller girls - there are girls that are 5'3 that will only date 6' and over. Not the biggest deal in the world but it's a noticable factor. Seriously, how many ass ugly tall dudes have you seen with trim that should be out of their league. If you have game it evens out a bit after a while (assuming you're good looking) but it can be a big hurdle, especially in a competitive environment.
Ahrrr ! a minimalist - how unusual in a femme. MY kind of dame.penkitten said:what penkitten wants in her husband:
1. give me the fluffy pillow at night.
the end
no, it is just the best pillow in the house....Last Man Standing said:Is this a sexual innuendo?![]()
um, never heard that one before.ThunderMaverick said:Well it's THE new and best sexual act these days, haven't you heard?
I talked to a girl the other day about doing the "fluffy pillow" to her and she had to leave immediately to change her shoes and socks.
Seconded.Honestly, I think this list is the most genuine I've ever seen.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.