A woman's prime years are 25-35, not 18-25

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Wait what, this is ludicrous, what's your explanation Jake?

18-25 is only good for women that don't take care of themselves mentally, physically, and financially. Of course when you are overweight, have 3 kids out of wedlock, working at the Jakes Diner in Smithville, Arkansas at 26 because you slooted around, 18-25 is going to be your prime. Because of youth, immaturity, and little life experience, a woman can easily screw up the rest of her life during this period. In addition, if she is aiming for higher value men then most of her relationships are going be transactional at this point. Yes her youth is her greatest strength but it is also her greatest liability.

25-35 If a woman didn't cash out her life during her younger years, developed a fitness plan, matured, and etc then this will be her prime years.
1) She is still attractive and do not go and tell me this bull shvt that only women under the age of 22 are attractive or I'll get Chris Hansen to send you a message.
2) She is mature enough for higher value man in their late/early 40s. Again, any guy over 30 dating a college aged girl is in a transactional relationship plain and simple. I'm dating a 21 year old right now and I can barely tolerate the immature bs, so I couldn't even imagine a 40 year old doing this.
3) She can still have children without any risk of complications at this age range

 

[2Rocky]

I can get on board with this. Mainly because I like women who have their $hit together. Less drama for sure.

 

[Plinco]

Usual suspects I see. I'm glad there are guys like this because that leaves me with less competition.

That said, I would advise doing whatever is best for you.

 

[SW15]

A woman's prime years for locking down a man long term are 18-25. I have seen examples from even the Millennial generation of women prior to age 26 locking down a 5+ year long relationship with a man and getting a ring out of it. Women who lock down a man they meet between 18-25 often spend ages 26-35 getting a big wedding ceremony and/or having babies.

The women who are 26-35 who are still single and stay in shape retain good market value. Some will end up with a much older man in this time frame, especially an older beta who wants to settle down and put a ring on it/have a family. Some not overweight/childless 26-35s continue to ride the carousel and chase alpha/sigma penis. While 26-35s might not get approached in person as much, all they need to do is put themselves out on a swipe app to get more attention than you can imagine. Additionally, if they are active on social media, they will have DM inquiries for dates on Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Maybe Facebook too, but that skews much older now.

 

[biggoal]

One problem is i see very few 18 to 25 yr olds on old and when i do they're fat usually.

 

[biggoal]

You know what your problem is.... Until you move your options are going to be shjt.

What does location have to do with women under 25 on old?

 

[Focal core]

its not even april fool yet, i guess it does every now and then nowdays! yeah agreed wrinkled pvssy are attractive to simps.

 

[BadBoy89]

any guy over 30 dating a college aged girl is in a transactional relationship plain and simple.

Any woman over 30 dating any guy is in a transactional relationship plain and simple.

 

[manfrombelow]

Jake please refrain yourself from discussing things you don't actually know what you're talking about. Please don't try to re-invent new definitions for traditional & established concepts. It's tiring.

 

[andreihaha]

While I get what you're saying, women 18-25 are still the best.
Do you want just some fun? You go for the young ones.
Do you want someone to spend the rest of your life with? You go for a young fresh one who hasn't ridden the carousel.

There might be exceptions here and there but on average, you're better off with a younger woman. If you can get one, of course.

 

[SW15]

Any woman over 30 dating any guy is in a transactional relationship plain and simple.

Please clarify. Is it a relationship that starts when a woman is 30+ or do existing LTRs becoming transactional once a woman hits 30? The majority of the friends I've made since moving to my current city are married men or men in LTRs that are now 5+ years. They are all in their 30s but these relationships started in their 20s.

The friends that I am mentioning here are beta, including one that did a good job imitating a Don Juan for a few years but was truly a wimpy beta.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Any woman over 30 dating any guy is in a transactional relationship plain and simple.

This is just irrational and screams that I’m so butthurt about women that I need the age pill to help me cope through life

 

[BadBoy89]

Please clarify. Is it a relationship that starts when a woman is 30+ or do existing LTRs becoming transactional once a woman hits 30?

Both.

When a woman gets older, her sexual appeal goes down and she doesn’t have as much power as she used to. The older she gets, the more she expects; either in a relationship or just getting into one.

Notice older women have more expectations; they all want tall, dark, rich, and handsome? Notice women who are in a relationship for a long time expect more and more as time goes on? A 22 year old at her best look and prime fertility doesn’t want the man’s resources, yet a 37 year old expects it from the man.

Going off an a tangent, the whole incel theory is NOT about sex, it’s about LOVE. These incels want (hot, young) women to LOVE them and RESPECT them. If they just wanted sex, they can spend some money go to Amsterdam and get the decent looking sex worker to do anything.

The whole point of Sosuave is to get the hot, young, fertile, girl without making it transactional.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Seriously

boohoo you can't choke on the age pill anymore

 

[SW15]

Going off an a tangent, the whole incel theory is NOT about sex, it’s about LOVE. These incels want (hot, young) women to LOVE them and RESPECT them. If they just wanted sex, they can spend some money go to Amsterdam and get the decent looking sex worker to do anything.

I read Eliot Rodger's Manifesto not long after the shooting. He explained why he didn't use a sex worker. It was exactly as you described it.

Incels lack both sex and the non-sexual elements of a romantic relationship. They have no sex and no deep emotional companionship. Male friends can't provide the level of emotional intimacy you get with a female sex partner, especially one with whom you share a committed relationship.

When a woman gets older, her sexual appeal goes down and she doesn’t have as much power as she used to. The older she gets, the more she expects; either in a relationship or just getting into one.

Accurate. The increase in expectations can lead LTRs/marriages formed when women were in their 20s to collapse between ages 35-45.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

LOL @ this
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[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

GTFO with this crap. Way off bro. And you are simping

transactional relationships are literally the biggest simp moves a man can make

 

[HaleyBaron]

A woman's prime is from 15 to 25.

Ten thousand years of human history saying girls are mature by 14 vs. 50 years of feminism saying women are prime in their 30+ years. This seems consistent with every country in the world except all the "first world countries" mostly USA and Canada. Hilarious how we have the highest age threshold for women to get with guys despite being "first world."

Which one will I go with hm....

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Wait what, this is ludicrous, what's your explanation Jake?

18-25 is only good for women that don't take care of themselves mentally, physically, and financially. Of course when you are overweight, have 3 kids out of wedlock, working at the Jakes Diner in Smithville, Arkansas at 26 because you slooted around, 18-25 is going to be your prime. Because of youth, immaturity, and little life experience, a woman can easily screw up the rest of her life during this period. In addition, if she is aiming for higher value men then most of her relationships are going be transactional at this point. Yes her youth is her greatest strength but it is also her greatest liability.

25-35 If a woman didn't cash out her life during her younger years, developed a fitness plan, matured, and etc then this will be her prime years.
1) She is still attractive and do not go and tell me this bull shvt that only women under the age of 22 are attractive or I'll get Chris Hansen to send you a message.
2) She is mature enough for higher value man in their late/early 40s. Again, any guy over 30 dating a college aged girl is in a transactional relationship plain and simple. I'm dating a 21 year old right now and I can barely tolerate the immature bs, so I couldn't even imagine a 40 year old doing this.
3) She can still have children without any risk of complications at this age range

Def, not 18-24. But also not 35. I'd say 25-30. Those are prime years. Maturity, finance, social, physical, etc. I'm not saying a 30-35 yr old woman can't be sexy/beautiful but I have noticed the start of aging at 30+.

From an evolutionary and anthropological perspective, women physically peak around 19 or 20. Meaning, physiologically speaking they are prime. But they lack certain experience, mindset, and maturity characteristics men would tend to look for a deeper connection than a physical one.

20-25 is almost a discovery phase for most of them. This is especially true in an age where that's where they experience college, career, sexual freedom (slut phase), etc.

This is obsiovuly not a rule casted on cement, it is subjective. But let's call it a generality/statistic.

25-30 is when a women is centered enough (with maturity and minset peaking at around early 30's) while still enjoying physical prime.

My humble opinion in the matter.


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[HaleyBaron]

From an evolutionary and anthropological perspective, women physically peak around 19 or 20. Meaning, physiologically speaking they are prime. But they lack certain experience, mindset, and maturity characteristics men would tend to look for a deeper connection than a physical one.

I usually agree with your stuff, MMA, but I have to say a disagreement here. This is just from my philosophy that I have seen from other men like myself.

There is no attractive quality a woman can give that is experience, mindset, or maturity related. Not to mention, her financial situation will not make me want to bang her more or less.

• Women are not meant to be your friend, so there is no need for intellect.
• Men are the hunters and the leaders. There is no need for a woman's money less she's part of your tribe and contributing to your own finances. You are one who decides what to do with that money in the end.
• Maturity, this means nothing to us men. A childish female is most of the time far more sexy and attractive than a mature one. Men are logical. Having an illogical fun going female is what makes attraction happen. Be advised, this does not include crazy females.
• If all a woman had was her looks and was submissive, every guy will still bring her into their fold. The only guys who want mature women are those who try to make friends with women. Women are not conversation partners. This also shows that the man is dependent and still has feminine qualities if he has to have women be as "mature" as him. That is what men are for. At that point, might as well become gay. Men are better mature partners.