"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A real head scratcher here!!!!!

catman

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First off i have read the whole plate spinning thread and agree with it 100%.I have 2 that i have been spinning and a third simmering on the back burner.Heres whats got me scratching my head? I have an almost 16 year old daughter that lives with me every other week(shared custody).While i try to see these women on the weeks i dont have her and try to focus on spending time with her im wondering? She knows that i have been seeing 2 women at the same time cause they call, text, and one will stop over sumtimes out of the blue.Without getting all moral isnt this reinforceing the idea that men cheat and lie to their gfs-wives? I mean i try to set a good example for her but to me this is kinda like smoking weed with your kids and then telling them not to do drugs:eek: Whats your thoughts on this?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dear Catman,
I felt the same way myself long whiles ago....Forget it,you are doing your girl a service...like my daughters she will grow up Street wise....I was straight up with my girls,told them that's the way Men are,protect yourself,get a degree,good job and separate bank account...They are now fine young Adults...any other course is pandering to the Matrix.
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Catman,
I felt the same way myself long whiles ago....Forget it,you are doing your girl a service...like my daughters she will grow up Street wise....I was straight up with my girls,told them that's the way Men are,protect yourself,get a degree,good job and separate bank account...They are now fine young Adults...any other course is pandering to the Matrix.
Scara has it ^^.
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Catman,
I felt the same way myself long whiles ago....Forget it,you are doing your girl a service...like my daughters she will grow up Street wise....I was straight up with my girls,told them that's the way Men are,protect yourself,get a degree,good job and separate bank account...They are now fine young Adults...any other course is pandering to the Matrix.

Thats OK telling them but you have to be careful that she doesn't start to see it as normal behaviour. If she sees it as being a normal thing to do maybe she might want to spin plates.


She might also have an overally negative opinion of men. Some women only see the negative side of men and we all know what kind of women they are.
 

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First of all, you are not doing anything immoral. You are not in a committed relationship with either woman. Or are you? Unless you officially told one or both of the women that you are committed to them, then you have no obligation to keep things exclusive.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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catman said:
Without getting all moral isnt this reinforceing the idea that men cheat and lie to their gfs-wives?
Then just explain that these are lady friends.
Technically, none of these plates are "girlfriends" nor "wives".

There's no exclusivity, hence, no sense of attachment.
Explain that this is a selection process through which you will eventually find the best candidate that lives up to your standards, the one that'll add true value to your already valuable life.
 

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Thanx and great advice as always!! I have been trying to instill as much street smarts as i can with my daughter.Had some really in depth conversations about drugs and drinking.I will tell her about the lady friends next week when shes with me.:D
 
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