"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A Real Don Juan doesnt have to use Online Dating sites

Serg897

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I've used OkCupid with some success before. In fact its curious that I find this thread right now - Im meeting up with a girl I've been talking to from that website today.

My personal opinion is that some of the free dating sites are good supplements for your game. I dont bother with the paid websites as you have to spend too much time on them to justify paying, and send out way too many messages (more than I have time for). OkCupid is a quality website and the girls there in general are better than on POF.

Just sending out a few messages here and there when you have time or when someone shows interest in you and getting a new prospect that way once in a while makes OKC worth it in my book. This girl Im seeing today supposedly is a 99% match - lets see!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Zarky

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Well, I've banged 3 new chicks from online in the past month or so. Two were 5s and one was an 8. And there are two more I could bang if I wanted to. The last 2 dozen or so lays I've gotten through online dating. So I'm not going to knock it.

And I'm poor so the "free" aspect is a big draw to me. I'm short so I tend to get lost in crowded places like bars and clubs. I'm better with one-on-one stuff. And I like women who are a bit bookish. So online works for me. Maybe not for you, but for me.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Most women in Atlanta are like this. But you should know that already.

I gotta rep this!

I already know. I dont spend any money on women in Atlanta. I just have women come over for drinks and we hookup.
 

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The guy who compared it to an investment nailed it. It's like owning a rental property.

You do a little bit of work upfront and then collect rent (and profit) without doing anything over the next few years. It's like having a tiny poon collector who goes out and works for you while you're off doing whatever you feel like doing.

Make a fun profile, ignore it, wait for messages from people you're interested in, and continue living your life. Occasionally interesting people will message you and they're immediately putting themselves in the chasing role. It can be fantastic.

Frankly, the more of you guys who have the OP's attitude the better. :)
 

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Dude if everyone here were true masters we would all be cared for by fine ass sugar mamas cruising the oceans of the world eating caviar and fine poon and writing our own biographies.

Online dating is good practice, you can do it from home or work when your not out burning cash. And if you hit even one fanny it is well worth it.

The only thing that sucks about online dating is that you dont want other people to know your using online dating.

As a side note the only people that have told me online dating sucks are girls and much older people. I don't care what they think...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The way I see it online dating is alot like mining for diamonds. Along the way youll go through alot of coal, but sometimes you'll hit that diomond in the rough either being a HB 8 or higher whom you happen to catch in a high state of horniness or a a high quality girl who is relationship material.

Both have happened to me. So I cant really say derogatory things about it despite the bad rap by many. I think it only becomes a problem when it becomes your only source of game.
 

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Everytime I hear something about online dating sites, it's usually bad. The other day I was reading an article where a girl took to task some chumps who were messaging her. The stuff those guys wrote was amazing. There 10 chumps saying things like "Oh my god, this is so weird, please don't think anything bad of me, ok, here goes, my name is John" The eleventh guy was actually pretty cool but the girl decided not to call him or e-mail him or anything because everything leading up to that one cool guy had disgusted her.
 

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rockittaco said:
Frankly, the more of you guys who have the OP's attitude the better. :)
The more guys who are sitting home emailing chicks makes the game better for playaz like me :)
 

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J Roc said:
The more guys who are sitting home emailing chicks makes the game better for playaz like me :)
This response tells me you didn't read what I said.
 

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Backbreaker has a thread on the Mature Men forum saying that the women on dating sites are there because they have failed in real life. And that if they were attractive women, they would be having plenty of offers in the real world. Of course, if this is true, what does it say about the guys on dating sites?

Desdinova said:
AFCs fvck up a lot of things up for us. They fvck up our desire to give nice things to women because they make it into a transaction (buying her 5hit equals winning her over.) They swarm around hot women on the internet, constantly sending messages and chat requests.
I've never bought into this "blame the AFCs for everything" attitude.
Whether they're AFCs or DJs, they are going to be going after the women. In either case, they are men (competition) who are in the way.

Also, if you want to give a woman something, give it to her. As long as you are coming from the right frame, who cares what other guys are doing? Pickup forums are the only places telling you to never give a girl anything. Do what you want to do, don't be a cookie cutter copy of everybody else running game.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i just bedded a chick from the club. how did you guys do from your hundreds of POF emails? LOL
 

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J Roc said:
i just bedded a chick from the club. how did you guys do from your hundreds of POF emails? LOL

Yea? and you're also ridiculously insecure if you've gotta come on a site like sosuave where i'd say 4/5 of the people are virgins and brag about some nasty skank you picked up at a bar last night to make yourself feel better. If you're really a "true don juan" why not act live you've been there before?
 
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