"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A Quick Notice - We are Unfair

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All these DJs out there or AFCs look for the most attractive female they can find and apply the techniques in this forum to get them. We feel instinct attraction by a girl's look and girls look for the "DJness of us".

I think we as males are very lucky because our looks basically don't matter too much but rather our personality traits. We can always change ourselfs to improve ourselves to get women. On the contrary, to the genetically fat or ugly girls out there, to matter how good of personality they have, almost none of the guys go for them.

So it is very cruel to some women in the women world because it all has to do with genetics. I think men has the better edge because they can constantly improve to get girls. On the other end, no matter how girls try..how nice they are.. if they are fat or ugly, we eliminate them.

isn't that so unfair to the ladies?



and yes... i'm a guy.... i'm just noticing....
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Fat chicks can fight their genetics lose weight and become hot and if an ugly chick has a good body and will give up the pvssy no doubt an AFC or down on his luck DJ will hit that sh!t so there's really nothing to feel sorry about plus if an ug snags a hardcore AFC moron looking to get hitched to the first piece of ass that shows him interest she can have him pay for her plastic surgery operation to reshape her ugly face and Pinnochio beak nose then after that dirty business is done and she's now a hottie she can leave that AFC ATM machine for a DJ that will rock her ass with more swiftness and precision than the plastic surgeon who lopped most of her nose off did with his scalpel.
 

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how is self improvement unfair to anyone else?
it is your mind, body and soul... if you choose to improve them, then it is something you do for yourself, by yourself and of yourself.
it has nothing to do with anyone else...

who cares if they think it is unfair?

oh i know who cares and says it is unfair, the people who don't want to improve their own selves. that's who.
 

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Have you ever heard of a theory called Social Darwinism. It is the application of Darwinism to the study of human society, specifically a theory in sociology that individuals or groups achieve advantage over others as the result of genetic or biological superiority. There is nothing wrong with the application of this theory the situation you are describing. The strongest survive and live on to reproduce while the weaker, in whatever sense you want to apply the word get tossed aside, chewed up and spit out. There is no such thing as fair, you do the best you can with the hand you are dealt, there is no sympathy to be had for people who are as you described. Despite their outside appearance; the evolutionary psychology of an individual will be intact, hence so will their passion to strive for a better existence and furthering the idea of survival of the fittest.
It is simply unnatural and inefficient to try and change a persons looks in order for them to accomplish what we feel they need to. These peoples futures were determined as soon as they were ripped from their mothers womb. When i read what you wrote all i see if a quitter and to be frank a failure who does not want to admit just how far he has fallen from the true path, you come here preaching your falsehoods as to how we are all monsters and do not care for anything but a pretty face and the wit of the same sex. Reality check, nobody here will agree with you because it goes against a founding principle of communities like these.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tekniq said:
Have you ever heard of a theory called Social Darwinism. It is the application of Darwinism to the study of human society, specifically a theory in sociology that individuals or groups achieve advantage over others as the result of genetic or biological superiority. There is nothing wrong with the application of this theory the situation you are describing. The strongest survive and live on to reproduce while the weaker, in whatever sense you want to apply the word get tossed aside, chewed up and spit out. There is no such thing as fair, you do the best you can with the hand you are dealt, there is no sympathy to be had for people who are as you described. Despite their outside appearance; the evolutionary psychology of an individual will be intact, hence so will their passion to strive for a better existence and furthering the idea of survival of the fittest.
It is simply unnatural and inefficient to try and change a persons looks in order for them to accomplish what we feel they need to. These peoples futures were determined as soon as they were ripped from their mothers womb. When i read what you wrote all i see if a quitter and to be frank a failure who does not want to admit just how far he has fallen from the true path, you come here preaching your falsehoods as to how we are all monsters and do not care for anything but a pretty face and the wit of the same sex. Reality check, nobody here will agree with you because it goes against a founding principle of communities like these.
No, not at all. I was just feel sympathy for the ugly girls because I noticed that I hate them when I see them ;) I am just curious about things.
girls that have the looks have higher self-esteem i guess?

haha im not preaching im just stating what i think. im cool with the way i am :cool:
 

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So tekniq u think that a person's future is determined before they are born?
This is probably true for... ants, or bees, but humans? i dont know about that.
 

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antidonjuan said:
No, not at all. I was just feel sympathy for the ugly girls because I noticed that I hate them when I see them ;) I am just curious about things.
girls that have the looks have higher self-esteem i guess?

haha im not preaching im just stating what i think. im cool with the way i am :cool:
So where is the drive that you must have in order to get any further than you are in life at the moment? Being "cool" with how things are is not a good sign, there is always room for improvement and there is always some aspect in your life that you can fix, regardless of what you are told or how ethical it is in the long run.
Actually, to comment on the low self-esteem point, i think you are completely wrong, because good looks in females usually cause more self doubt and apprehension. It's an odd idea, but you have to realize that the better looking the girl is the more likely she doubts just how good looking she is based on comparison to girls who are obviously even better in terms of appearance, it is also these same girls who often feel the loneliest and need the most attention in spite of other girls looking at them as if they are clearly not even comparable and would not fit in in the same clique.
 

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Overweight women can and need to lose weight, for their own health!

An ugly face might be saved by plastic surgery, lol.

Guys can and need to learn how to be happy, socialible people. Again, for their own health.

Part of attraction is being healthy. Attractive women who are screwed up in the head might still get guys wanting to bang them, but sooner or later the guy will have had enough of her, plus the guys most women want are selective as far as relationships go. People who cannot control themselves within reason are rarely attractive for long.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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antidonjuan said:
All these DJs out there or AFCs look for the most attractive female they can find and apply the techniques in this forum to get them. We feel instinct attraction by a girl's look and girls look for the "DJness of us".

I think we as males are very lucky because our looks basically don't matter too much but rather our personality traits. We can always change ourselfs to improve ourselves to get women. On the contrary, to the genetically fat or ugly girls out there, to matter how good of personality they have, almost none of the guys go for them.

So it is very cruel to some women in the women world because it all has to do with genetics. I think men has the better edge because they can constantly improve to get girls. On the other end, no matter how girls try..how nice they are.. if they are fat or ugly, we eliminate them.

isn't that so unfair to the ladies?



and yes... i'm a guy.... i'm just noticing....

Yes, I agree. There is no WORSE thing to be in this world than an unattractive looking female.

Just look at Eleanor Roosevelt. Her own mother abandoned her when she was younger because she thought Eleanor was ugly. Despite her great character and all the good things Eleanor Roosevelt did, the first thing that come to mind for most people when they hear the two words Eleanor Roosevelt is "UGLY"

You are right, a girl can speak 10 languages, have an IQ of 150 and be nice as hell, but if she ain't atleast a 5 or 6, most decent looking guys want nothing to do with her.


However AntiDonjuan: The majority of facial unattractiveness in most males and females is fat (gives you chubby cheeks and a double chin) and deformities of the teeth, nose and jaws. ALL, are 100% correctable and I have seen tons of Oral and Maxillofacial surgical patients go from ugly to pretty good-looking.

Watch this girl who has a jaw mismatch go from a 3 to about a 7.

http://www.drhenrydds.com/caseseven.html


DON'T FEEL BAD FOR THESE PEOPLE! THERE IS HELP OUT THERE.
 

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wutangfinancial said:
A good 5% of dudes are involuntarily celibate, usually because of genetic factors, such as being abnormally short.
Wutang, if I can get laid with an 8/10 Asian girl at 5'6, you can get laid easy at 5'8.
 

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What the heck.

I disagree.

This trend of men becoming more skilled as pick up artist does not tip the balance scale in anyway for the courtship of men and women. What most of you fail to recognize is the vastness of the diversity concerning variety of people mating around the world. Do you honestly believe there are pick up artist in third world countries? Of course there aren't, in fact there can't be. But lets back up to to all of us who have the extreme luxury of instantaneous communication. Many men who have learn some additional skills as PUA's are still meeting with struggle of somekind. Over the course of their transformation into sucessful PUA's, most will likely only meet 10 or fewer women to court with. Wow that's amazingly unspectacular concidering even seasoned PUA's occasionally have sex with girls who would otherwise rate as a 6 by normal standards just for the f*ck of it.

The issues concerning "fairness" in terms of sucessful gaming as PUA will almost never be a significant factor in the overall courting of society. Some of us will mate with many others will mate with few. You'lll be hard pressed to see too much difference as the PUA community grows to make things different on any level. I do feel bad for girls who are dominated by a combination of their own naievity and the skill of the player taking them for a ride, but I also feel bad for the people or animals being slaughterd for poor reasoning. Is there something I can do about it? Yes. Will I? Ofcourse not. It's just the way of the world. Humanity has it's course and I'm content to let that course go as it see's fit.
 

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antidonjuan said:
All these DJs out there or AFCs look for the most attractive female they can find and apply the techniques in this forum to get them. We feel instinct attraction by a girl's look and girls look for the "DJness of us".

I think we as males are very lucky because our looks basically don't matter too much but rather our personality traits. We can always change ourselfs to improve ourselves to get women. On the contrary, to the genetically fat or ugly girls out there, to matter how good of personality they have, almost none of the guys go for them.

So it is very cruel to some women in the women world because it all has to do with genetics. I think men has the better edge because they can constantly improve to get girls. On the other end, no matter how girls try..how nice they are.. if they are fat or ugly, we eliminate them.

isn't that so unfair to the ladies?



and yes... i'm a guy.... i'm just noticing....
No, it's not unfair. It's the way life has been, is and ever will be. So, grow up. Jeez..
 

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SilverSonnet said:
No, it's not unfair. It's the way life has been, is and ever will be. So, grow up. Jeez..
This is so awesome to hear from a 14 year old...and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way at all. It's good to see somebody listened to the old folks growing up. :up:

Really, we've all got it tough. We all are so egocentric that we think we're the only ones who have problems, and everyone else just has it sooo good.

Think about it...the tall, good-looking athelete type--could be his parents are pushing him to go pro or major in business when he wants to study art...

Maybe that hot, smart, leggy blond really wants to go into business, but people only give her the time of day because she's hot and they think she's worthless in the working world.

Maybe that short Asian guy with a coke problem (sorry Wutang, had to throw that in there :D) is going to found the next equivalent to Google or Microsoft even though he can't get hotties to give him the time of day right now...

Maybe the fat chick with glasses is going to be the next Mother Teresa...who the hell knows.

Really, we don't give ourselves or other people the credit they deserve. Judge not, lest ye be judged. And we're all basically a bunch of naked apes just short of throwing feces at one another while we struggle to the top of the food chain in the limited time we have on this rock in outer space.

Everybody has it bad. If you could just throw your problems out in a big pile and see what other people have to deal with, you'd probably take yours back in a heartbeat.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Here's a good parable for unfairness:

The young man was at the end of his rope.

Seeing no way out, he dropped to his knees in prayer.

"Lord, I can't go on," he said. "I have too heavy a cross to bear."

The Lord replied, "My son, if you can't bear it's weight, just place your cross inside this room. Then open another door and pick any cross you wish."

The man was filled with relief. "Thank you, Lord," he sighed, and did as he was told.

As he looked around the room he saw many different crosses; some so large the tops were not visible. Then he spotted a tiny cross leaning against a far wall.

"I'd like that one, Lord," he whispered.

And the Lord replied, "My son, that's the cross you brought in."
 

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but girls CAN improve themselves. Dress better, improve their attitude, go to the gym.

And guys, on the other hand ARE limited to an extent by genetics. For instance, I seem to have a naturally pretty good body even when I don't exercise. If I actually could be bothered to go to the gym I'd be a GOD! Fair? No......

The moral of the tale is that if you want something, go and get it. End of story.
 

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DarthAngel707 said:
Here's a good parable for unfairness:

The young man was at the end of his rope.

Seeing no way out, he dropped to his knees in prayer.

"Lord, I can't go on," he said. "I have too heavy a cross to bear."

The Lord replied, "My son, if you can't bear it's weight, just place your cross inside this room. Then open another door and pick any cross you wish."

The man was filled with relief. "Thank you, Lord," he sighed, and did as he was told.

As he looked around the room he saw many different crosses; some so large the tops were not visible. Then he spotted a tiny cross leaning against a far wall.

"I'd like that one, Lord," he whispered.

And the Lord replied, "My son, that's the cross you brought in."
haha nice one!
 

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Oh boo hoo, guys! ****, half the school hates me. I couldn't give a fvck. Why? 'Cos they're a bunch of balless geeks that will be kissing women's butts while I get laid. I may not be much to look at(popular) right now, but who gives. I'm at school to learn, not to kiss the fvcking soles of the popular people's shoes.
 

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DarthAngel707 said:
Here's a good parable for unfairness:

The young man was at the end of his rope.

Seeing no way out, he dropped to his knees in prayer.

"Lord, I can't go on," he said. "I have too heavy a cross to bear."

The Lord replied, "My son, if you can't bear it's weight, just place your cross inside this room. Then open another door and pick any cross you wish."

The man was filled with relief. "Thank you, Lord," he sighed, and did as he was told.

As he looked around the room he saw many different crosses; some so large the tops were not visible. Then he spotted a tiny cross leaning against a far wall.

"I'd like that one, Lord," he whispered.

And the Lord replied, "My son, that's the cross you brought in."
Man says 'Oh good one Lord. Thanks for nothing there. No chance of an actual smaller cross, as opposed to the knowledge that other people have it worse?'

God says 'No my son. I kinda like watching people suffer.'
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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