A question for the females

[kavi]

So, lets cut to the chase here. This should be straightforward. @BeExcellent I wanna know whats going on here.

How come so many low class guys are getting laid more than better men. Whats up with females. You know what im talking about. And you are married to a decent guy as far as i remember, and he wont have a high notch count, so if guys like that are good and attractive enough, how come other types are getting more notches.

Im saying this because im sure you and other girls are part of pushing this scam. Why would high quality guys like myself value sex with women or any kind of relationship when too many low quality guys are getting laid in ONS, then the scam is known by all females, why do they insist on acting or pretending that sex with females (in general) has any value.

You know BPH's Game is nothing so why were you hyping him up in that thread? Its easy for me to call out females.

A high smv guy is a high smv guy, it doesnt matter who the women gives sex to.

Now i know from my interactions with females what they like. So how come guys with different behaviours are getting laid more in ONS.

And why are there two markets out there. The ONS market and LTR market.

And what is this fake idea that if a man doesnt move quickly and get laid quick he will lose out. Remember the female is buying, the man is the product. The better product is the better product, the female not buying it doesnt change that. There is no time pressure, the better product will remain the better product, quality stands the test of time. If a female sleeps with a lower guy it dont make him a better guy, it just means she has low standards for sex and intimacy.

This is not an online thing, I can and do call out females IRL, so please no one take it the wrong way. I have this neighbour when i moved into this property she kept trying to talk to me, but i knew she had issues, like many females from that group. Me and my housemates independantly noticed different guys were coming to her house to visit, i dont care but i just noticed. When this neighbour came over to talk to me but like many females sibtly tried to get the upper hand and talk me down about some random stuff, i just blurted out to her "..AND WHY ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT GUYS COMING ROUND" not that i care but i thought let me change the subject and show her i can talk ppl down if she wanna play that game, and she was like "AND WHATS IT TO YOU" so i just told her "GIRLS LIKE YOU.....THINK IM A KING" which is true.It was funny then she knew idgaf that sh!t turns them on but i really dont give a f.

What im saying, girls, inlcuding yourself i beleive, wanna act like vagina has value, even in ONS, like men should be judged by their notches, or it means something, like how you were hyping BPH, but then why im I seeing so many low quality guys getting more notches, to me I am simiply losing value for women and sex. And its easy for me to express this and call it out, online and IRL.

 

[BPH]

Nothing says "alpha" like obsessing over another man's success...

 

[kavi]

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[BackInTheGame78]

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Because you don't impress me Dobalina...
The style of dress is not the key Dobalina,
It's all in the minds and hearts,
So you should start by remembering you gotta pay a fee, Dobalina...

 

[jhonny9546]

The ONS market and LTR market

Knowledgeable men here should explain this.
How do a man qualify for the LTR or ONS market?
It require a different man

 

[Sega Genesis]

How do a man qualify for the LTR or ONS market?
It require a different man

^^It's nuanced but in many cases it requires a different skill set.

Or perhaps both. Skills to initially attract a woman and skills to build a relationship and keep it healthy over time. Assuming that's what they both want.

 

[Prepostereax]

Yeah, there's definitely a different market for ONS/casual, and LTR's.. but also a bit of overlap.

It's like, some people just want KFC or McD's, can happily live on a diet of that.
Not healthy long-term but maybe they don't feel like shyt after, and to them it's better than nothing.
It's the convenience that matters.

Where we're at, with dating apps, is like a smorgasbord.
And next time sample something else, or try the bistro across the road.
Do this often enough and everything will blend into a sameness, where every fcking cafe serves variations of the same (usually cheap quality, overhyped & overpriced) menu.

Those with the means might live for fine dining, the full pornstar banquet.
That's gotta be tiresome over the long run, at least at the same venue. Unless said venue can mix things up and keep things fresh all the time.

Over the longer term, comfort foods win, just like home cooked.
Something that's satisfying enough without having to go all out, and tailored to your appetite.

 

[viking22]

Lots of value judgements here. What makes a man high quality or low quality in your eyes?

 

[The Duke]

Tell us who you are and what you are about and I will tell you why you don't get women. Youre upset, jealous, and lack options. Tthat is the first problem. Women sniff that out real quick.

It's clear why BPH gets women.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Why would high quality guys like myself

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You know BPH's Game is nothing

Highlight of thread^.

 

[plumber]

usually a man that is doing well would not ever think about what your asking. they will either simply ignore and not care or join in. complaining about it looks like being excluded and not by choice. sounds like the girl wanted to include you until you told her no.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The point is that women are trying to solve two different problems at the same time: finding the most attractive man they can and finding the man who can provide the most stability and security. The argument is that those qualities don’t always exist in the same guy.

Because of that, the man a woman is most attracted to isn’t always the same man she sees as the best choice for a serious relationship. So if there’s a difference between who she wants and who she commits to, it’s because attraction and long-term partnership aren’t always driven by the same qualities.

All your questions are answered in the article below:

Schedules of Mating

There are methods and social contrivances women have used for centuries to ensure that the best male’s genes are selected and secured with the best male provisioning she’s capable of at…

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[zekko]

And what is this fake idea that if a man doesnt move quickly and get laid quick he will lose out. Remember the female is buying, the man is the product. The better product is the better product, the female not buying it doesnt change that. There is no time pressure, the better product will remain the better product, quality stands the test of time.

I'll take this one. Sorry you aren't getting the responses from females you're wanting yet, but there aren't all that many here. Anyway:

You have to remember two things: First, women expect men to initiate. If you don't move fast, women may assume you are gay, aren't interested, or that you are afraid to make a move (timidity is not a good look on a man - that's just nature), or that you have no experience and don't know what to do. I'm not sure which of the latter two is worse.

Second, women have a lot of options. If they're attractive, they get hit on, a lot. Bearing that in mind, they tend to have short attention spans when it comes to men. There is a certain window of time where she is interested in you, and if you don't act within that window, she'll get distracted by someone else and/or lose interest in you. She will mentally and emotionally move on.

 

[Velasco]

The better product is the better product, the female not buying it doesnt change that. There is no time pressure, the better product will remain the better product, quality stands the test of time. If a female sleeps with a lower guy it dont make him a better guy, it just means she has low standards for sex and intimacy.

following what zekko said above. Unlike inanimate products such as cars (porsche vs prius (or whatever fill in the blank low quality car)), humans have the unique ability to communicate, read vibes, and response. therefore, that aspect gets factored in to the overall product that is human.

Therefore if that same available girl that showed initial attraction in you, but ended up sleeping with someone else instead, she does in fact end up sleeping with the better guy (you wanted her but you didn’t fvck her, so now she’s low quality lol?). No matter how strong the first guys other attributes are. because he did (the unique ability humans have over cars) something (played his cards right) with that attraction. while you failed.

 

[BadBoy89]

There is no time pressure, the better product will remain the better product, quality stands the test of time.

So Jennifer Lopez, a 56 year old, 4 times divorced, mother of 2 teenage boys woman who has been fully naked in movies.

is Sexier than

Olivia Rodrigo, a 23 year old, never married, no kids woman who has been never naked in movies.

Rock on!

 

[BaronOfHair]

@kavi "How come so many low class guys are getting laid more than better men"

In the age of Chalamet-esque Soft Boys, wife beater rockin' street hoodlums who are covered head to toe in tattoos are currently the closest thing to masculinity left in The Anglosphere

 

[jhonny9546]

^^It's nuanced but in many cases it requires a different skill set.

Or perhaps both. Skills to initially attract a woman and skills to build a relationship and keep it healthy over time. Assuming that's what they both want.

Tell us more about how you filter for that.. I wonder women have no filter at all.. You want the exciting guy then it could happen two things:
1) You convince him to stay, and He still a exciting guy, but you do everything you can do to control him
2) You convince him to stay, but He actually is a bit too much..You can't control him, and end up with a breakup.. and He leaves.

Women don't search for a good man, they want to "lock" the exciting guy

It's clear why BPH gets women.

Which qualities does he have?

 

[jhonny9546]

The point is that women are trying to solve two different problems at the same time: finding the most attractive man they can and finding the man who can provide the most stability and security. The argument is that those qualities don’t always exist in the same guy.

I have to disagree.
Women cannot control their feelings for a man.
They will actually feel that is the right guy, and try the best to turn into a "provider" and "attractive" men too.

 

[jhonny9546]

Second, women have a lot of options. If they're attractive, they get hit on, a lot. Bearing that in mind, they tend to have short attention spans when it comes to men. There is a certain window of time where she is interested in you, and if you don't act within that window, she'll get distracted by someone else and/or lose interest in you. She will mentally and emotionally move on.

This is so effimerous to actually make you understand how much work you need to do.
" She will mentally and emotionally move on." Look like if you miss a single weekend off, she will start to be emotionally disconnected.

But zekko great job describing the two things you need: 1 Action 2 Timing

Therefore if that same available girl that showed initial attraction in you, but ended up sleeping with someone else instead, she does in fact end up sleeping with the better guy (you wanted her but you didn’t fvck her, so now she’s low quality lol?). No matter how strong the first guys other attributes are. because he did (the unique ability humans have over cars) something (played his cards right) with that attraction. while you failed.

I think this is key