"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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A question about the world's greatest PUA

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Just because Mystery is famous for teaching people how to pick up women doesn't mean he's the best at it. That's like saying Will Smith is the best actor in the world just because he's one of the highest paid. But I've seen some absolutely amazing actors that are nowhere near famous.

Believe it or not there are plenty of men who can pick up women insanely well, who don't use aliases or belong to some forum or mastermind pick-up group.

Like I said, guys like Mystery have established themselves as experts because they do this for a LIVING. Can he pull more chicks than me in the club scene in LA? Probably. Can I get laid by equally hot girls in my own neighborhood with less effort? I think so. I don't have to wear any ridiculous flair either.

This isn't a race. The only guys that are actually competing are the "gurus" who think they have something to prove, but the only data they have to compare is their own.

:up:

I gotta c/s this

I know a couple guys who could give Mystery a run for his money and they are not famous/rich or anything
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mystery is 35 now.. he is slowing down.. even after 10 years into the game, he is still ranked number 1 PUA.. so obviously he deserves some credit for that.

He dated #55 on the FHM magazine's top 100 supermodels.

Keeping in consideration that he was a simple ordinary guy without any celeb fame at that time, i'd say the case is closed.
 

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He dated #55 on the FHM magazine's top 100 supermodels.

Keeping in consideration that he was a simple ordinary guy without any celeb fame at that time, i'd say the case is closed.
Wow you still don't get it. He's ranked #1 among self-proclaimed PUA's that actually care about submitting "stats" about the women they pick up.

And how does dating a supermodel make you a good PUA? Do you think her extra hot body changes her response patterns from any other women? Hue Hefner's dated many supermodels. How come he isn't #1? Because he refuses to compete in a stupid underground penis showing game? Maybe.
 

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I don't really care if he is #1 or if he isn't. I am plenty happy with just learning his method, making it my own, then just having fun.

It is silly in my opinion to argue over if he really is the best. I know i put it in the title of this post but it doesn't really matter.

I started to read his book and im finding it interesting so hopefully i will finish it by tommorow :up:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm just saying, don't take everything these guys tell you as law. Practice and improvise, and you will get much better and soon find yourself ditching many of their so-called golden rules.
 

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dbot said:
I'm just saying, don't take everything these guys tell you as law. Practice and improvise, and you will get much better and soon find yourself ditching many of their so-called golden rules.
I guess we can all agree on that.
 

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librito said:
Here is the list of the top 3 pick up artists according to thundercatseductionlair.com in 2007.... be aware that this website is recognised as the sole authority ranking the top puas and has being ranking them since 2003. The trophy for the top pua from 2008 will be awarded later on.
1...mistery
2...style
3...afc adam

If you know more about ranking puas than this website than you can argue against the fact that mistery is ranked the number one pua at this moment....and if you are going to say that there are better than mistery at picking up women at this moment then mention the name of the guy so your argument would gain some credibility and we won't think that you are just talking feces.
Heh.

Mystery, Style, AFC Adam, and most of the other names on the list you mention are friends of mine ('cept that guy in last place, #10, of course - he's no pickup artist!) and good guys at that...

But I don't believe than anyone amongst us considers it significant how well 'ranked' we are according to outside estimation.

Everyone can learn something from anyone - although most often, what they will learn is what NOT to emulate!

Johnny Soporno
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Johnny Soporno said:
But I don't believe than anyone amongst us considers it significant how well 'ranked' we are according to outside estimation.
Johnny Soporno
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"we"??... who ever mentioned you in this thread? lol...
 

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daygameguy, Johnny Soporno is well known in the "pickup industry"... (or whatever anyone wants to call it)

dbot, I agree with everything you said mate.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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mystery aka ERIK is not the best.........he teaches........but tons of guys can bag more chics than this guy.

He just put it to a workable method......I am a fan of mysterys and I adore his show........but He aint the best.

Most famous YES, most dedicated.......YES, instructed the most students.......YOU BETCHA, the best at picking up women..........hmmmm not sure about that at all.
 

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daygameguy said:
Johnny Soporno said:
But I don't believe than anyone amongst us considers it significant how well 'ranked' we are according to outside estimation.
"we"??... who ever mentioned you in this thread? lol...
That would have been me - when I said "anyone amongst us", that was meant explicitly to include me.

Solomon said:
who is ranked number 10?
This fat, balding, old guy:
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2008/01/08/the-top-10-pick-up-artists-of-2007/
 

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Johnny Soporno said:
That would have been me - when I said "anyone amongst us", that was meant explicitly to include me.



This fat, balding, old guy:
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2008/01/08/the-top-10-pick-up-artists-of-2007/

Johnny S.

Riddle me this, why do so many pua guys charge so much for their class's and seminars? don't they realize that a lot of afc's can't afford this? you would think, most of them being former afc's would recogize this and do it for the love of the game and not money

anyway just my .2cents
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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COD said:
mystery aka ERIK is not the best.........he teaches........but tons of guys can bag more chics than this guy.

He just put it to a workable method......I am a fan of mysterys and I adore his show........but He aint the best.

Most famous YES, most dedicated.......YES, instructed the most students.......YOU BETCHA, the best at picking up women..........hmmmm not sure about that at all.
I agree with you on that.

He does use some magic/illusion gimmicks for building attraction, he also tends to use some of his celeb status, which he should, but all of this counts against him when it comes to ranking.

I agree that Style and AFC Adam and even some of the other people in the community may have equal or better skills at the moment. So best PUA title might fluctuate...

But he was the first to come up with this method, he had NO other seduction method at that time to refer to, and all these other PUAs are using their own version of the MM, and during his absolute prime, Mystery was the only guy with this level of game, and since he is the main inventor/father of pickup, he should be called the world's greatest...if not the world's best PUA.
 
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