"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A Piece Of Advice.....

Cassanova_Child

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dont listen to the friends of the girl your after. just dont. dont let them tell you that they're not interested, or not your type, etc.... its bull****. they probably want you themselves, or REALLY hate you. girls are *****y and ****blocking fellows. i just realized that his happened to me (the girl i was after told me she would have hooked up with me if i had made a move).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Triple T

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don't disrespect her friends either. :up:

If your friends with them they will say good things about you to her, and girls always talk to each other about boys and stuff. They'll approve of you to her and help your chances of getting with her.

Trust me. If it were not for me gaming all of my current girlfriend's friends, and getting them thinking highly of me, I probally would have had a harder time getting my girl. But it all worked out :cool:
 

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You shouldn't be meeting her friends. Your business is with her, and her alone.
 

Triple T

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Rhoto said:
You shouldn't be meeting her friends.
What so bad about meeting her friends?

Your not hurting your chances are you? Your just widening your social circle, widening the group of people you know. I see no harm in meeting with her friends?
Please explain.
 

SinJester

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Make friends with them if you can, makes things easier ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rhoto

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Triple T said:
Please explain.
You're in high school bud, that comment doesn't really apply to you. (And considering the fact that we're in the high school form, I feel silly, but regardless what I say holds truth.)

You should make friends with everyone in high school because you're forced to socialize. And there is no harm in widening your social circle either, don't take it that way.

In college and then out of college, you're responsible for the company you keep and there is a much larger selection. When you're past 21+ you're normally only interested in her for one thing and not really her outside life. This includes her friends. When you interact with her friends, you run the risk of being c0ckblocked at some level. Especially if the girl you're going after is more attractive than her friends. If you're at a bar, one of her friends may "accidentally" drink too much, or want to leave, or be an outright b1tch.

Or you may find out her friends are much hotter than her....

Sure, making a good impression on her friends isn't negative, and if you're looking for a girlfriend it can't hurt. But you shouldn't make it a habit of commingling with her friends, it can complicate things.
 

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never said not to make friends with them, i am friends with them, just, if they start telling you things you don't wanna hear, DONT LISTEN, lol. and yeah, wat someone else earlier said has a point, you dont want them to go ***** about how much of an A-hole you are, so be nice to them too.
 
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