"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A New Low: The Brother Zone

ezilonman

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I have a friend that has been in love with this girl for a year and a half now.

He is such a ***** though that he has never made a move on her. I love him to death because he is my boy and I have tried to help him but there is no hope. A person won't change unless they want to.

Anyways my buddy has created a whole new level of the "friendship zone".
He has gone straight through that right into the "Brother zone".

Everyone thinks they are dating because they are always together...ALWAYS! They are basically in a relationship w/o the kissing, sex, etc...

But in reality whenever I ask her what thier relations are she doesn't even say "were just friends"

No, instead she always says "he is like a brother to me"

Ouch...atleast you have a chance (although small) in the friendship zone

the brother zone is hands down game over!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bvbidd said:
Gay guys are supposed to be there.
Funny! She said to me "he likes men" even though I have told her a few times he wants a piece of that a$$.

I thought she was joking but she might really think its true... he isn't gay, he does stuff with other girls.

but has this girl set so high in his mind... poor fella, she owns him.

I try to help him move on but...he just won't accept it. I have even showed him this site....

Maybe a punch to the babymaker is in order?
 

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He is in enough agony. He probally crys himself to sleep and wacks it hourly to her mental image.
 

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Yeah dude, it's pretty fvckin terrible to have a strong, platonic friendship with...a woman. I can think of nothing worse.:nono:

A lot of younger women will hook up with their male friends, in fact, one of my closest female friends, who considers me a "brother" was gonna hook up with me the other night, but I told her no (because she hooks up with a lot of her close male friends, and I can't deal with that).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Same here serialized, I have a gal-friend who she calls me her little brother, but we've had sex before.

It all depends on the situation. But, for this guy I dunno, it sounds kinda bleak.
 
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