"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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A hopeless loser in need of advice.

Dreamin'_Dylan

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I think I've really dug myself into a hole here, and I'm hoping these forums can help me solve my problem. It started about a year and a half ago when I was just a freshmen. A friend of mine suggested I join him in checking out our schools amine club. I'm not in to cartoons, but I could tell that my pal just needed a wingman, so I join him. It's at the club that I meet some of the people who are now my best friends, as well as the girl of my story, Caitlin. Of course, Caitlin catches my attention as soon as I walk through the door, but I don't actually talk to her yet. I just introduce myself to some of the guys, and by 5:00 I'm on my way home. The next week though, I finally have the courage to talk to Caitlin, but it doesn't go so well. Apparently I didn't make too bad of an impression though, because she hasn't told me to get lost. So the week after that I ask her for her number. (I would have talked to her more often, except she's a sophomore at the time and we never really saw eachother.) So I get her number, and I foolishly ask her if she wants to hang out with me and catch a movie or something. She says no because she wanted to spend time with her boyfriend. Fast forward a month, she and her boyfriend have been broken up for a while. I give it a little time, then ask her out again. She says no. We do start hanging out around school and become friends. We start to get to know eachother, and I eventually ask her out again. She says no again. So at this point, the last day and a half of my sophomore year, I'm thinking about asking her out again, to see if I can get around the friendzone. I'm sure you all will see me as some pathetic kid, but I really need some advice.
(Also, please forgive any spelling errors. Typing isn't easy on an iPod at 1:00 am)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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AH909

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Bro, you need to forget this b*tch. If shes rejected you 3 times there is no way she will say yes to the 4th. Idc how much you "love her" you gotta move on. To her you are an orbiter or in other words she goes to you when everything else goes wrong. She is not attracted to you at all she is just using you to boost her ego. I would either break of contact all together or use her to expand your social circle and meet new girls. I would also recommend you read the DJ and HS bible. Good luck.
 

Ajbobtom

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AH909 said:
Bro, you need to forget this b*tch. If shes rejected you 3 times there is no way she will say yes to the 4th. Idc how much you "love her" you gotta move on. To her you are an orbiter or in other words she goes to you when everything else goes wrong. She is not attracted to you at all she is just using you to boost her ego. I would either break of contact all together or use her to expand your social circle and meet new girls. I would also recommend you read the DJ and HS bible. Good luck.
Nice advice I would say. I say do what you feel is right man. I have been in similar situation, except I did get the girl. But I got "Can we just be friends" like a hundred times from the girl. So do what you feel is right, and grow from it. That is truly the only way to live.

The Bible is a good place to start here, but it can only guide you. It wont make sense until you do. For example, you could have some one teach you differential equations, and not understand how to do it your self. That is until you do, then you can truly understand the concept.

So, do what you think is best then think about what went wrong, and what went right?

Good luck friend.
 

Dreamin'_Dylan

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Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I realize that she's probably just taking advantage of the way I feel about her, but for what? Could I really just be an ego booster for her? She's never really seemed to care about her ego. (Or anything at all for that matter)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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apocolipto

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AH909 said:
Bro, you need to forget this b*tch. If shes rejected you 3 times there is no way she will say yes to the 4th. Idc how much you "love her" you gotta move on. To her you are an orbiter or in other words she goes to you when everything else goes wrong. She is not attracted to you at all she is just using you to boost her ego. I would either break of contact all together or use her to expand your social circle and meet new girls. I would also recommend you read the DJ and HS bible. Good luck.
This.
 

Mr Wright

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1. You're not a helpless loser, dont let one girl(im not going to refer to her as a female dog because im sure shes nice, shes just not into you) take over your whole perception of yourself.

2. You're obsessed with her, it probably feels like love, you have strong feelings towards her but trust me, you can get over it.

3. The best way out of the friendzone is actually to ignore her and get with other girls and by the time she wants you, you probably wont want her anymore.

4. You've had a lesson, learn from it. Dont let this happen again, be strong, do your own thing. Learn how to get good at this and seek what you really want.

5. Good luck, it will be hard but to be the best you have to go further than the rest.
 

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We've all been there.

Hey,man,you definitely are not a loser. We've all been infatuated with a girl in our youth. You dream about her all of the time and the feelings are so strong that they overwhelm you. Don't sweat it. By this time next year,she will be a disstant memory. You're only sixteen and you have discovered this forum! You are going to have a huge advantage over most other guys your age.

Try to forget about this girl,atleast for now. Start pursuing other women and don't get too into any one girl. There is a whole world of beautiful women out there who will be glad to be with a man like you. Remember,your self respect is far more important than sex.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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