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And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

A heartwarming piece on feminism and men---written by a FEMALE!

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Following is an email written to me by a girl I know fairly well. We often discuss current events and the state of gender affairs, and she is, in my opinion, what all of us should strive to find in a WIFE (gasp!), in terms of her views and attitudes. She is a Christian (as am I) but don't let that throw you off if you are atheist or agnostic. The message is the same. I'm posting this with her permission for a little encouragement, and to say, yes, these girls do exist.

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"I was doing some reading this morning and as I found myself becoming more and more outraged, more and more upset about the mindset of (mostly) women and men these days I decided to try and see things from a different point of view.

Instead of dwelling on how doomed our society is due to the lack of appreciation for gender differences, I am instead going to be thankful that you and I (as individuals) have made it this far without becoming completely corrupt alongside everyone else.

When I read something like this:

Though 40 years have passed and great progress has taken place, many men continue to feel that a woman who describes herself as "a feminist" is a male basher that hates men. To these fellows, a woman who would dare upset the well established imbalance of power by requesting an equal share, respect and opportunities for females is viewed as someone whose goal is to destroy the family, and men in particular.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Taking a stand against male oppression and fighting for a woman to have the right to say "No!" to you and make choices that suit her does not mean that such a woman is against you. Being pro-woman does not mean that one is anti-male.

According to the dictionary, feminism is "the movement for the full social, political and economic equality of all people." When viewed in those terms, how could any decent man be against the feminist movement?

Women are powerful, smart, strong creatures, emotionally resilient, caring, and in touch with themselves and others emotionally. Women are by far the stronger of the sexes in every way but physically. No woman, and especially Black women, has the need to be submissive to men on any level at any time.
(emphasis added)
The obvious contradictions are enough to make me want to rip my eyes out to keep from further reading such trash!! First of all, she is defending feminism by saying that is has nothing to do with female superiority and male hate and everything to do with "equality" but quickly follows up this statement with how women are "by far the stronger of the sexes in every way but physically". Even still- follows THIS ignorance with the idea that no woman, "Especially black women" has the need to be submissive, as if now skin color now has something to do with it?!??!

Instead of worry and anger and frustration- what I am choosing to take away from this is thankfulness that the Lord has guarded my heart and mind. That he has kept me from falling into these ideas and mindsets that I believe are meant to steal, kill and destroy (as evil so loves to do) the natural order of our genders and the role that it plays within our relationships.

Furthermore, When I read things like THIS

In today’s genre of female dominance and feminism, it is almost impossible to believe that there are submissive women. Are they the less important? The weak link to the female species?
For your information submissive women should not be labeled as weak. Why? Isn't it a fact that most women who readily submit are the ones being used and abused by their partner or husband?
Mostly, yes, but many of these abused women are not as weak as we think they are. Besides being submissive has a broader sense of definition.
Female Submission – What it Means
Wikipedia described female submission as a relationship wherein women submit or yield to a dominant partner. It also stated that the submission can be voluntary, consensual or as a duress resulting from a social, economical, psychological, educational or cultural mandate. In this case, it can be safely concluded that women who yields relentless has a choice not a natural trait.
I have a tendency to become even MORE horrified because of the false information provided by a statement that at first seems like it is against feminism and somewhat in support of a male dominated relationship. Unfortunately it quickly takes a turn in the opposite direction stating that most women who are submissive are being used and abused?!? This is absolutely ridiculous. And then to say that submissive personalities are a choice and not a natural state? In the way of "obedience" yes, it is a choice. But submissiveness IS a natural state in the same way that some people are naturally more "dominant" personalities than others.

It seems that everyone wants to teach us that this is "unnatural". Or that male lead relationships and femininity is practically a taboo fetish of sorts. I really am starting to believe that this way of thinking and teaching brought on by the feminist movement is honestly a spiritual battle. What will become of a people who are locked into a gender battle? Women have quite literally began to wage war on men and masculinity and by doing so are perpetuating the very behaviors in men that displease them. When women spew man hate and constantly fight for what they call "equality" they turn off men who in return start to, as you say, "pump and dump" because they can't find a women worth actually spending quality time with.

So with women demeaning and fighting to dominate men, and men resenting and harboring bitterness because of these women...what will become of us? What will become of marriages? Women were made to compliment, encourage and help men. When women fight, belittle and disrespect men- and raise their offspring to do the same- what will become of the human race? Marriages will continue to fail. Or cease to exist. Unfortunately this will have no effect on the rate of reproduction but will have a HUGE effect on the spiritual, mental and even physical outcome of the offspring that is born into this. I say physical because I think the idea that "gender" is wrong and bad is what has lead us to "transgender, transexual and inter-sexual" ideals that lead to sex changes etc.

While these realizations hurt my heart and sprit they also spark my passion for change. I hate to dwell on the negative but being fully aware of the problem impassions me to be and do everything in my personal power to NOT fall into these thoughts, ideas, mindsets or lifestyles. I want to do, say and be exactly the opposite of these women. I want my life and relationship to be a walking feminist contradiction. Hopefully the peace, love, happiness and success that comes out of this will be a huge wake-up call for women around me."
 

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Fear not Colossus,

especially Black AMERICAN women


I fixed it for you.

Married to the absolute contradiction sends a powerful message.

There is a rise in Muslim marriage and religion and its gaining by the day... sort of a scary thought but I think shortly, that will be the only safe option for marriage. I just believe that the population of blacks, whites (and japs) is going to shrink, our economies are going to falter and give rise to the remaining 'fvckers' on Earth. We need children to drive an economy, no kids, no future. These women are weeding themselves and the best chance they have of raising children out of the gene pool. SS ****y funny, be a jerk is just more proof that women back home are making bad mating decisions.

Time for anti-feminist cultures to rise up. Feminists will be bred out of existence shortly and we can accelerate the process by encouraging men to only date foreign. Doesn't have to be Chinese... Caribbean, South American, Asian, Russian. Anyone who does NOT subscribe to western feminism... preferably those people who have had to deal with 3rd world conditions and the realities of the World beyond Western boundaries and government safety nets. Those women deal in reality.


As they said on the secret: Thoughts become things.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Doesn't have to be Chinese... Caribbean, South American, Asian, Russian. Anyone who does NOT subscribe to western feminism...
And you seriously think it's any different in these countries where women are mostly interested in what you can provide. A Cuban, Brazilian, Thaï, Russian would rather marry a local than a Yankee.
Pray for your teaching contracts to be renewed where you are because the moment you start having issues (financial, visa etc.), you will see the true nature of your beautiful bride and her family... so many stories of guys who got ****ed big time in Asia, South America (the western woman would even appear angelic in comparison...)
A woman is a woman wherever you are... stop kidding yourselves with the foreign bride myth...
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Fear not Colossus,

especially Black AMERICAN women


I fixed it for you.

Married to the absolute contradiction sends a powerful message.

There is a rise in Muslim marriage and religion and its gaining by the day... sort of a scary thought but I think shortly, that will be the only safe option for marriage. I just believe that the population of blacks, whites (and japs) is going to shrink, our economies are going to falter and give rise to the remaining 'fvckers' on Earth. We need children to drive an economy, no kids, no future. These women are weeding themselves and the best chance they have of raising children out of the gene pool. SS ****y funny, be a jerk is just more proof that women back home are making bad mating decisions.

Time for anti-feminist cultures to rise up. Feminists will be bred out of existence shortly and we can accelerate the process by encouraging men to only date foreign. Doesn't have to be Chinese... Caribbean, South American, Asian, Russian. Anyone who does NOT subscribe to western feminism... preferably those people who have had to deal with 3rd world conditions and the realities of the World beyond Western boundaries and government safety nets. Those women deal in reality.


As they said on the secret: Thoughts become things.
No. Cordon says we only go after foreign women because they are the only women who will have us :rolleyes:. Or was that just a cheap insult attempt because he got butthurt? Yes, that's it.
 

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Take two 18 year old girls.
The first, before she ever has sex, gets a respected man of solid income potential to state before his God, family and community that he will protect her for all eternity.
The second has sex with the captain of lacrosse team in his dorm room. He never calls her again.

Which one would feminists say is empowered?
Which one actually is empowered?
- From the LaidNYC blog.
 

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And you seriously think it's any different in these countries where women are mostly interested in what you can provide. A Cuban, Brazilian, Thaï, Russian would rather marry a local than a Yankee.
Pray for your teaching contracts to be renewed where you are because the moment you start having issues (financial, visa etc.), you will see the true nature of your beautiful bride and her family... so many stories of guys who got ****ed big time in Asia, South America (the western woman would even appear angelic in comparison...)
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Just for your information: I went to school to be a cop, I don't need teaching contracts. The true nature eh? Those same d1ckwads were subconsciously pursuing westernized women, I see it all the time here. They always pick spoiled b1tches that talk back to them and treat them like crap, those guys will never change. Your comment tells me you don't know sh1t about foreign women or the game... the majority of men who pursue them are idiot AFCs not trained PUAs. The gold diggers can smell you from a mile away, they've been westernized.


A woman is a woman wherever you are... stop kidding yourselves with the foreign bride myth..
A woman is a woman... Tell that to a hardcore muslim, I think you'll find a different answer. Is a wild undisciplined dog the same as one that has been sent to a training school? You ever see those families where you walk in the house and the dog is jumping all over you, pissing and sh1tting on the furniture? That's a western woman. Take that dog and send him to obedience school, train the sh1t out of him and teach him the fear of god and you can turn him into a police officer. Women are no different then dogs and some cultures teach their dogs obedience.

100% agree
This is why you fail.
 

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Colossus said:
I say physical because I think the idea that "gender" is wrong and bad is what has lead us to "transgender, transexual and inter-sexual" ideals that lead to sex changes etc.
This has crossed my mind before. This idea that everything has to be equal seems to be at the root of both feminism and all pro-gay agendas going on. There can't be any differences between the sexes (except for the natural inferiority of males, apparently). And there can't be any right or wrong.

I don't care what people do with their private life. But these days it seems like it's not enough to be for equal rights - if you don't embrace and celebrate homosexuality then you are painted as a bigot. And a sexist, if you don't embrace feminism. No argument, no debate, you're simply a bigot. And if you are a Christian on top it, then you're really painted as a hate monger.

Nice post, Colossus.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Just for your information: I went to school to be a cop, I don't need teaching contracts. The true nature eh? Those same d1ckwads were subconsciously pursuing westernized women, I see it all the time here. They always pick spoiled b1tches that talk back to them and treat them like crap, those guys will never change. Your comment tells me you don't know sh1t about foreign women or the game... the majority of men who pursue them are idiot AFCs not trained PUAs. The gold diggers can smell you from a mile away, they've been westernized.




A woman is a woman... Tell that to a hardcore muslim, I think you'll find a different answer. Is a wild undisciplined dog the same as one that has been sent to a training school? You ever see those families where you walk in the house and the dog is jumping all over you, pissing and sh1tting on the furniture? That's a western woman. Take that dog and send him to obedience school, train the sh1t out of him and teach him the fear of god and you can turn him into a police officer. Women are no different then dogs and some cultures teach their dogs obedience.



This is why you fail.
I agree. If you pick the right foreign woman it's nothing like smooth_as_silk said. Like I said, I could lose my job, my house, all my money and move in my parents basement, and my foreign woman would happily move in with me to my parents basement and stay by my unemployed side. Who here can say that about a western woman? I'll be waiting awhile for that answer I think. Probably until I die from old age.

Exactly like you said Livefree. We are trained by this site to sniff out the bad ones and pick the good one's. You think I would have picked the wrong one?

The thing is, if anything happens to this marriage and we split, her entire family will shun her. She wants me to go to her country to meet her family. I told her I am not sure, and she went to bed crying.

These chics are serious.
 

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are women in the US really this tragic? i am a "foreign man" as you guys put it, and i live amongst the "foreign women" especially since i travel across eu because of my job. i can tell you they are "westernized" like the rest. if you guys talk about asian/african women, i cannot tell you anything about them since i only go to asia for holiday, and in africa never. but since i dislike asian women in general, and black women also don't attract me sexually, i have no experience with them.
the difference is IMO that in EU the marriage is not yet an institution to enslave men, and as such, it is still a somewhat viable option for a family.

and about feminism, it basically sux. but in this case i really blame the male society.
1. it sucked to be a woman and this contributed to a need for feminist movement
2. MEN allowed feminism to be born, especially politicians for the hope of some new voters, or hope of pvssy resulting from their white knight gestures

and just as MEN allowed feminism to be born, we, MEN have the power to also stop it, and not let women as a society, shyt on our heads. we can do this on a personal scale by LTR'ing only non-feminist women, the rest is just a hole for us to bone, and as a society, but for this we should stick together and not let our principles dissipate at the first glance of the possibility of pvssy.

we men do have the power. we just are too much of a coward to use it. male society is afraid of women, not because they are powerful but because we are horrified of the idea that females might not LIKE us.
 

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CrimsonPanther said:
We men do have the power. we just are too much of a coward to use it. male society is afraid of women, not because they are powerful but because we are horrified of the idea that females might not LIKE us.

Could not agree more my friend. Men don't realize how much power they have. I think for most of us, our power lies in individual decision making. We CHOOSE to tolerate cvnty, entitled behaviors. We CHOOSE to marry women who deep down don't give 2 sh!ts about us, they only care for their own comfort and security. We CHOOSE to "pump and dump" all these sluts we talk trash about on the forums, and all we are doing is perpetuating the problem.

LiveFreeX said:
A woman is a woman... Tell that to a hardcore muslim, I think you'll find a different answer. Is a wild undisciplined dog the same as one that has been sent to a training school? You ever see those families where you walk in the house and the dog is jumping all over you, pissing and sh1tting on the furniture? That's a western woman.
As much as I don't want to jump on the foreign women bandwagon, LiveFree has a point here. Women are women and dogs are dogs, but there is a BIG difference between a well-bred, well-trained, and well-kept dog, and a mutt who was never disciplined and is allowed to run roughshod all over the house, barking and sh!tting wherever it pleases.
You are more likely to find the well-bred varieties of women in a country that does not wholly embrace feminism, socialist entitlement, and disrespect of men.

By the way, the girl who wrote the email in my post is American. I think we are committing a biased sample fallacy when we categorically throw in the towel on all our compatriot females. The well has been tainted, for sure, but most of us LIVE HERE! We have to play the game on the fields we have.

If a guy wants to go abroad and search out some novel feminine women, I say power to him. But I still say a guy can take command of his own life HERE, and do fairly well if he just selects good stock.

-0 to 5 sexual partners
-25 or younger (you can mold them)
-Never married
-No kids
-Non-feminist
-Traditional upbringing

There's no secret to finding them either (other than not looking in bars and POF). You just spin plate after plate after plate until one turns up. It's only a matter of time.
 

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Many foreign women are "housebroken." That simply means they've been raised well. Many but not all American women are lacking that kind of discipline - but all women are begging to be gamed by a strong dominant male.

It's easy to rip all American females based on the feminist crap you read online and see in other media. Well you wouldn't want to be judged by how most men are portrayed, would you? It cuts both ways. To extend the dog analogy of LiveFreeX, you don't want to take on a project - something with fleas and bites and mange.

I do encourage men to travel and experience women from other cultures, not just because they might be more feminine but because it broadens one's game and perspective.

On the other hand, if you ain't where you are, you're nowhere...so while you save for a trip or a move, you should still be sharpening your saw in your current universe. That includes selecting the women who merit your attention and discarding the ones who do not.
 

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I think the EU qualifies as 'western' now. My brother lived in Germany and while his gf wasn't as bad as American broads, she wasn't anything to compare to mine. Man I was just at a hotel waiting for a bus and the number of UGLY, FAT Spanish women was staggering... I mean really fat and really ugly. So I would say the EU is out.

Sam & Colussus: If you are going to keep a dog you have to be a strong willed disciplinarian. Animals don't respect people who don't demand respect. A great series of shows to watch are the 'dog whisperer' shows. Man those guys know how to train their fvkin dogs. And if you watch the houses they walk into, usually the wife/husband are these jelly bag, spineless sh1ts and you find out that he's not just teaching the dogs to obey but also teaching the men and women to respect each other.

That said, I think Sam pointed out, its better to start with a well bred animal than a mutt. There's also a benefit to dating/marrying outside your nationality and that's to give your future generation a bit of culture and a solid non-american grounding in life. Also you can usually get dual citizenship out of the deal. 6 months living in Canada and 6 months in Mexico was awesome when I was in my 20's. I would love to do it again but my wife is Chinese...so... :(

Malice: South America and more importantly Mexico, is a very nice place.. cheap housing and decent and affordable/healthy food. You could live down there on a few thousand dollars for 6 to 8 months. Where is your wife from originally? If she's got family willing to put you up dude, I would take a year off work and go chill out down on the beaches. Plus, she gets to parade you around as her trophy for a bit.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Malice: South America and more importantly Mexico, is a very nice place.. cheap housing and decent and affordable/healthy food. You could live down there on a few thousand dollars for 6 to 8 months. Where is your wife from originally? If she's got family willing to put you up dude, I would take a year off work and go chill out down on the beaches. Plus, she gets to parade you around as her trophy for a bit.
My wife is from Peru. She is not from a big nice city like Lima. She is from a small village about 10 hours out from Lima. The only way to get there is to fly to Lima, and then take another flight to Arequipa, and then take a 10 hour bus ride to get to her location. She does it all the time. That's why I don't want to do it but I have to because it's so important to her.
 

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I spent some time in Peru, its poor as sh1t but the food is AMAZING and its CHEAP. Yeah its a little dangerous out there too. Peruvian girls are hot as fvck though... I sort of envy you a little. :)

God, I have never eaten a steak dinner like they've got in Peru... for like 3 dollars it was a huge piece, cooked to perfection.... free range cattle, with great sides and drinks.... man, if you go, you will be well fed. Sam the food in Peru is better than the food in Brazil, and the food in Brazil is better than SEX. You could probably live down there for a few years on a couple thousand bucks. Lots of Peetoukas there now though.


Sorry Colossus, didn't mean to hijack your thread. Fvk feminism guy, go eat a steak dinner in Peru.
 

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Dear LiveFree,
"Sorry Colossus, didn't mean to hijack your thread." don't worry mate everyone else is doing the same....That Woman really writes well,on second thought she is preaching to the choir anyway!
 

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LiveFreeX said:
I spent some time in Peru, its poor as sh1t but the food is AMAZING and its CHEAP. Yeah its a little dangerous out there too. Peruvian girls are hot as fvck though... I sort of envy you a little. :)

God, I have never eaten a steak dinner like they've got in Peru... for like 3 dollars it was a huge piece, cooked to perfection.... free range cattle, with great sides and drinks.... man, if you go, you will be well fed. Sam the food in Peru is better than the food in Brazil, and the food in Brazil is better than SEX. You could probably live down there for a few years on a couple thousand bucks. Lots of Peetoukas there now though.


Sorry Colossus, didn't mean to hijack your thread. Fvk feminism guy, go eat a steak dinner in Peru.

Came home tonight and had a huge dinner waiting for me. I recommend all men go Peruvian. **** I'm a lucky guy to have found this woman. All her friends who married Americans the guys are happy too.

She has alot of hot friends. It's unbelievable. Too bad some guys on here I don't know in real life. I could hook some people up big time. Even her sister back in Peru is hot. She doesn't hang out with American b!tches.
 

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Malice said:
I agree. If you pick the right foreign woman it's nothing like smooth_as_silk said. Like I said, I could lose my job, my house, all my money and move in my parents basement, and my foreign woman would happily move in with me to my parents basement and stay by my unemployed side. Who here can say that about a western woman? I'll be waiting awhile for that answer I think. Probably until I die from old age.

Exactly like you said Livefree. We are trained by this site to sniff out the bad ones and pick the good one's. You think I would have picked the wrong one?

The thing is, if anything happens to this marriage and we split, her entire family will shun her. She wants me to go to her country to meet her family. I told her I am not sure, and she went to bed crying.

These chics are serious.
This is how my ex was. She stayed by me when I was unemployed at different times. At one point when I just kind of stopped caring, and it was showing, she said "you know what chinese woman does in traditional china? If her husband dies she commits suicide." You find the right kind of foreign woman they will be your sex slave/ housekeeper.

She left because I was way to much of a selfish jerk (her words) and I was a drunk *******. I spent to much money on beer, cigs, weed, ect.

She was fiercely loyal as well. I didn't have to game her, her hamster would spin over nothing sometimes.

The on thing I did not like, is she would tell me I have to go to college for her parents to accept me. I did not like conditions be set like that.
 

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noobolgy said:
This is how my ex was. She stayed by me when I was unemployed at different times. At one point when I just kind of stopped caring, and it was showing, she said "you know what chinese woman does in traditional china? If her husband dies she commits suicide." You find the right kind of foreign woman they will be your sex slave/ housekeeper.

She left because I was way to much of a selfish jerk (her words) and I was a drunk *******. I spent to much money on beer, cigs, weed, ect.

She was fiercely loyal as well. I didn't have to game her, her hamster would spin over nothing sometimes.

The on thing I did not like, is she would tell me I have to go to college for her parents to accept me. I did not like conditions be set like that.

All she said to me was I have to go to Peru for her parents to accept me. Guess I am going soon. Will be a cool adventure.
 

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Malice said:
Came home tonight and had a huge dinner waiting for me. I recommend all men go Peruvian. **** I'm a lucky guy to have found this woman. All her friends who married Americans the guys are happy too.

She has alot of hot friends. It's unbelievable. Too bad some guys on here I don't know in real life. I could hook some people up big time. Even her sister back in Peru is hot. She doesn't hang out with American b!tches.
What town is she from? I plan on doing more traveling in SA and I looove me some Latinas. Argentines are stuck up but the rest of the continent is filled with some great women. My only reservation is they all seem to eat fried food and sugar in copious amounts which in the long term is no bueno.
 

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What town is she from? I plan on doing more traveling in SA and I looove me some Latinas. Argentines are stuck up but the rest of the continent is filled with some great women. My only reservation is they all seem to eat fried food and sugar in copious amounts which in the long term is no bueno.
Ilo.

It's located in bumf/ck Peru. 10 hour bus ride AND a flight to catch the big city Lima.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49598000/gif/_49598685_peru_bolivia_ilo1010.gif
 
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