"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A girls asks you "are you attracted to me??"

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Its not WHAT you should say, its WHAT you should communicating to her

Do you want to communicate that: "yes she is attractive because she is a hottie" or
do you wan to communicate to her: "that she is an attractive girl, but looks alone dont cut if for you, someone who you click with and have a good time, is far more valuable to you, then a pretty face."
 

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the305 said:
Its not WHAT you should say, its WHAT you should communicating to her

Do you want to communicate that: "yes she is attractive because she is a hottie" or
do you wan to communicate to her: "that she is an attractive girl, but looks alone dont cut if for you, someone who you click with and have a good time, is far more valuable to you, then a pretty face."
This is the advice of a guy who has never been asked this question.

Say something crazy like, 'not really, but its the personality that counts'. Hold a straight face for super humour effect. When in doubt, attack her self esteem.

or, 'no, but your mum on the other hand, wow'. That makes me laugh everytime.
 

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It depends on the situation. Don't say something to win her approval. Don't do some stupid **** like saying no when you are because someone said that girls are attracted to guys that don't show much interrest. Just don't be afraid or try to hide anything.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I used this one from the old thread

If I say yes, will you give me a massage? I like massages from attractive women
Now she said "If you rub my feet"

What should I say to that?
 

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Guys, you have to realize WHY women ask this question, 80% of the time they ask that question to figure out if you just want to get in their pants and thats it.

hot girl: tell me the truth, you just want sex from me right?
you: no but your mom on the other hand!

so for anyone who wants to ease the mind of a girl thats thinking about sleeping with you, but isnt quite sure yet... i suggest do just that ease her mind, dont avoid it with a silly joke, that will just make her think "yeah he just wants me for sex."
 

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@305, your advice is straight up nonsense.

Its called flirting. Rule 1, you never take her seriously. Rule 2, you never make it too easy for her.

Easing her mind is not what you want at all.

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I used this one from the old thread



Now she said "If you rub my feet"

What should I say to that?
Haha, keep playing the game. This is basically a childs game, keep teasing her.

If you're up for it, 'ok, but i might get carried away and continue up your legs with my massage...'

Anything playful will do buddy.
 

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RULE NUMBER 1: Always sub communicate to a girl its never, about sex and sex only.
RULE NUMBER 2: if you FAIL to sub communicate that, when SHE brings it up, MAKE sure you communicate it.

Can it be in a fun sexual way, of course.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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she got a little snooty to the remark about massaging her legs:

"is that right? well hmmmm you better stay respectful mister"

WTF should I say to that?
 

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Bluntmaster: I told you what to communicate to her... You decided to go with other advice, because it "seemed" more useful, your mindset is in the wrong place thats why you though it "seemed" more useful.

You cannot attract and seduce, with her not being "ready", you saw a way to "flirt sexually" and you took it, when u should of been focusing on other areas first, THEN laid down the sexual stuff.

She gave you a 'read in between the lines' red flag about sexual stuff, and then you go forward with sexual stuff? Does that make any sense? I guess it did to whoever gave u the advice... lol

P.S. do note that it wasnt a "fck up" move, and its fairly easy to fix, but if she is talking to another guy and is interested in him as well.. he is surely ahead of you in the race now.. Keep that in mind for when you are gaming, not just this girl but all girls.
 

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Bluntmaster said:
she got a little snooty to the remark about massaging her legs:

"is that right? well hmmmm you better stay respectful mister"

WTF should I say to that?
Why do you keep asking what should you reply???!??!??!?! She's probably taking 20 seconds to reply and you're worrying like hell on what you have to say. Are you by any change insecure and seeking approval? If you are I'd go read some inner game stuff on this website. Don't seek approval from girls...
 

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Groovy said:
Why do you keep asking what should you reply???!??!??!?!



Because I felt like it.

I think the305 was correct... she is probably asking different guys that same question to see who wants her for one reason.

It's a good thing I have game because I lied and convinced her I like her for other reasons and we have a date for the 4th.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Bluntmaster said:
she got a little snooty to the remark about massaging her legs:

"is that right? well hmmmm you better stay respectful mister"

WTF should I say to that?
'ill try my best but im not making promises'.

Hehe.

305 has no idea what he's talking about. He has never flirted with a girl to any success. Who are you going to listen to?

And who gives a **** if you ask a friend how you should reply. I ask or swap stories with buddies. Dirty texts and dirty pictures can be shared between guy friends to no shame, this is law!
 

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a few of my responses.

- well you are not perfect, but there is room for improvments

- ew, you? i just puked a little. *with a smirk*

- no not really, you are cute but not really my type.
 

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Ease said:
'ill try my best but im not making promises'.

Hehe.

305 has no idea what he's talking about. He has never flirted with a girl to any success. Who are you going to listen to?
305 made a good point. Sometimes you have to talk to them intellectually. After I realized his advice, I got her to agree for a date on the 4th.

What are you going to do, be ****y and funny 24X7? Good luck with that.
 

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Bluntmaster: good work man, its good that you had the slip up, because now you know what to do next time a similar situation occurs. you will be able to "read in between the lines"

Remember to keep a balance of being playful along with being "real", that combination creates attraction fast, two qualities women love.

Ease is just one of those people who trolls forums.. don't mind him buddy.
 

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the305 said:
Bluntmaster: good work man, its good that you had the slip up, because now you know what to do next time a similar situation occurs. you will be able to "read in between the lines"

Remember to keep a balance of being playful along with being "real", that combination creates attraction fast, two qualities women love.

Ease is just one of those people who trolls forums.. don't mind him buddy.

I think sometimes guys take the ****y and funny too far, me included.

One time I was out with this girl I really liked, and instead of being real with her, I just stayed ****y and funny like I didn't give a damn.

It doesn't work that way. Then she was out hopping on other d!cks because I was never real with her.

I won't make the same mistake twice.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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