Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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a girl who F**** on the first date?

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I met this girl at a party, we had a good convo the entire night exchanged emails and phone numbers, blah blah...Anyways shes saying how she loves to F*** and all this, now keep in mind I barely know her and shes telling me this, and she says that it wont even take 3 dates with her. (now thats either really good or really bad...) I mean Im not sure if I want a girl THAT easy. Who knows her past...Am I wrong for making an assumption like that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mtlwlu said:
I met this girl at a party, we had a good convo the entire night exchanged emails and phone numbers, blah blah...Anyways shes saying how she loves to F*** and all this, now keep in mind I barely know her and shes telling me this, and she says that it wont even take 3 dates with her. (now thats either really good or really bad...) I mean Im not sure if I want a girl THAT easy. Who knows her past...Am I wrong for making an assumption like that.
Well women like sex too. It seems men are here because they want sex from women but when they give it to them they judge her or don't want it.
 

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Judge a girl by her character, not by her eagerness to have sex.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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dbot said:
Judge a girl by her character, not by her eagerness to have sex.
THANK YOU,DBOTI've always been wary of girls who just throw sex out there like it's no big deal to complete strangers. To me,a woman is like a coke machine. You have to put something of value in before you get something out. That's just the way it works. You put your money in,push the button,then the coke comes out. However,if you're standing near the machine,then out of the blue out comes a soda,it may seem good,but something's wrong.

Women don't say to guys they've just met things like "it won't take even three dates to **** me,and "oh,how I love to f***. That ain't normal. If it was,the the OP wouldn't have made this thread. I never,ever use surface logic when it comes to women. I guarantee you it won't be as simple as-girl says "I love to F**k",guy says ok,then they go have sex.

This girl may be telling the truth about how much she loves sex,but NO woman would just go around announcing it out loud to random guys.
 
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Igetit! said:
THANK YOU,DBOTI've always been wary of girls who just throw sex out there like it's no big deal to complete strangers. To me,a woman is like a coke machine. You have to put something of value in before you get something out. That's just the way it works. You put your money in,push the button,then the coke comes out. However,if you're standing near the machine,then out of the blue out comes a soda,it may seem good,but something's wrong.

Women don't just say to guys they met things like "it won't take even three dates to **** me,and "oh,how I love to f***. That ain't normal. If it was,the the OP wouldn't have made this thread. I never,ever use surface logic when it comes to women. I guarantee you it won't be as simple as-girl says "I love to F**k",guy says ok,then they go have sex.

This girl may be telling the truth about how much she loves sex,but NO woman would just go around announcing it out loud to random guys.
I don't think Dbot meant that, he was trying to say that it does not matter if they are eager to ****, but how they are as a person. Just because she was horny does not mean she couldn't be LTR material, her character determines that. Although too easy can be a turn off sometimes (If you like a challenge).
 

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dbot said:
Judge a girl by her character, not by her eagerness to have sex.
great way to look at it. we wouldn't mind screwing them on the first date, but afterwards would condemn them for giving it up?!

talk about hypocrisy.
 

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Dude what the hell???!!! I love girls that screw on the first date. LOVE. Nothing is better than getting some new pvssy to dive into. In fact when i'm single if I DONT have sex on the first date I wonder what went wrong lol. Odds are you arent gonna marry these girls, so quit worrying and getting emotional like a girl and go out and have fun.
 

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Girls not wanting sex on the first date is usually a deal breaker for me...two date limit. I'm not in the market for anything long term though lol just having fun
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Igetit! said:
THANK YOU,DBOTI've always been wary of girls who just throw sex out there like it's no big deal to complete strangers. To me,a woman is like a coke machine. You have to put something of value in before you get something out. That's just the way it works. You put your money in,push the button,then the coke comes out. However,if you're standing near the machine,then out of the blue out comes a soda,it may seem good,but something's wrong.
why are you comparing women to vending machines?
 

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Wow that chick is a straight up slvt no matter how you put it...just dont get a fvcking herpes from her
 

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Igetit! said:
THANK YOU,DBOTI've always been wary of girls who just throw sex out there like it's no big deal to complete strangers.
That's not what I meant at all. From my experience, when women say something like that to you on a date it's usually because they like you and are nervous/insecure and are trying to tell you what they think you want to hear. I'm not saying that's the case here, but you need to read between the lines. Regardless, whether or not a woman holds out on sex has nothing to do with who she is, or the quality of her character.
 

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In my experience a woman who talks like this usually DOESN'T put out. She's usually just seeking attention.

It's more often the quiet women who blend in who tend to put out more often.

Whether a woman puts out has nothing to do with her character, but who she puts out to shows a lot about her character.
 

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Just do not, I repeat do not go down on her...

When a girl sleeps with me on the first date I mentally say to myself I am the Fin Man, not she must be a Hoe. It might be my ego, or extrmely postive self image but I blame it on me. Wear a COndom and enjoy yourself.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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WC2 said:
In my experience a woman who talks like this usually DOESN'T put out. She's usually just seeking attention.

It's more often the quiet women who blend in who tend to put out more often.

Whether a woman puts out has nothing to do with her character, but who she puts out to shows a lot about her character.
Poetry right there.
 

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WC2 said:
Whether a woman puts out has nothing to do with her character, but who she puts out to shows a lot about her character.
Unfortunately, we rarely see the other men she puts out to, so in the end we're ultimately judging her character based on what we think of ourselves.
 

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mtlwlu, Badmannaz, eaglez1177 and I.A.F.Y.B.

You guys are THE reason why girls are afraid of being called sluts and whores What is wrong with girls enjoying sex?

Every guy here is trying to have sex on the first date. When you get it to happen you think less of her? :kick:
 

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actually Im not trying to have sex on the first date, call me old school, but Id rather just kiss close then F close on a first date, theres something I dislike about girls being "too" easy. I like a little more of a chase, hence why I came to this board in the first place.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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