"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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a friends ex....

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is that a no no?
i know this girl has never been with someone like me and she always seemes excited, shes really cool, gorgeous.
the only problem is that she used to be with one of my good friends.
i like this chick alot but i dont know if itll upset him. he used to complain about her all the time when they were together. now that shes single he always want to lead her on and the complains because she was paying attension.....

so how does one go about this?

confrontation? do it behng the back? i need some help.....
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I suggest that if you really do give a crap about your friend then you let him know ahead of time. Guys tend to be very particular about their exes sometimes, it seems as if it was a territorial thing. if not, then do it behind his back, you shouldn't have to give explanations to anyone of your actions and if he's such an a$$ to this girl he shouldn't even care...
 

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Originally posted by HeartlessBtch
I suggest that if you really do give a crap about your friend then you let him know ahead of time. Guys tend to be very particular about their exes sometimes, it seems as if it was a territorial thing. if not, then do it behind his back, you shouldn't have to give explanations to anyone of your actions and if he's such an a$$ to this girl he shouldn't even care...
you picked the right user name.
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but to original poster.

read the bible. forget about this girl.

you're asking this question because you know its wrong. you want to be told its ok.

forget about the girl. read the bible.

you'll meet 50 girls you like better then this girl over the first year that you truly spend trying to pick up.

and as a bonus, you'll keep your mate, and he'll probably respect you a hell of alot more.
 

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actually i think he knows like 90% certain he knows that something has already happened. he just doesnt know that i know.
i just want to avoid drama and what not.

the first time we hooked up we were drunk at club and danced the night away till we got to my place.....
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by nacho
actually i think he knows like 90% certain he knows that something has already happened. he just doesnt know that i know.
i just want to avoid drama and what not.

the first time we hooked up we were drunk at club and danced the night away till we got to my place.....
there ya go..
you're already an *******..

let me play it out for ya.

your jimi, your friend is mike, the hoe is jonathon. (its more fun giving her a boy name)


mike and jonathon are dating. mike breaks up with jonathon. everyone moves on.
except jimi.
jimi does the sly and makes out with jonathon.
jimi also has feelings for jonathon, and due to this, jimi is going to get himself in trouble.
not only with mike.
jimis other friends, peter, michael and david will lose respect for him and side with mike.

but thats ok.

jimi has jonathon. he's happy.
and he'll stay happy for 18 months. (if he's lucky). then he'll realise he has his mum, his dad, and jonathon. and he'll think, damn, i've thrown so much away.

he'll be, what we call here, another. frustrated. chump.

only worse. he knows enough to know that he's a chump. and he still settles for it?

figure that out.
 

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my friends already know and didnt seem to have a problem with it. they pretty much say "well he was a d**** to her"
my friends know how i am with women, its just a matter of wether i should tell my friend or go as it is and think nothing of it.
 

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Nacho

I was in the same exact position as you were... and he and I never spoke about it, even though he knew and I knew he knew something was going on. I found out from other friends that he didn't care at all. Even still we maintained a decent friendship and never discussed her. She and I are history but she still believes we are close friends so it's difficult juggling both friendships...haha...

I will say this, if your friend has moved on and is happy, he probably won't care too much... if he is single, it might still bother him. I don't think you are not a man if you don't ask your friend for permission to be with her, the thing is a woman is property of no one... not even an ex... it's unfortunate but true.

If any of my X's started to date any of my friends, maybe it would bother me, but I have no right to stop them. To me that would be even better, because then I would be able to move on a lot easier.
 

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it would bother me, because then she would alwas be around more.

You shoulda asked. It seems like he doesn't care all that much, but it still woulda been the right thing to do.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wouldn't go down this path if its a good friend.

Of all the women out there you had to find one that dated your good friend?
 

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see the main reason why i dont think should ask is because i dont want a relationship right now, what am i gonna say "hey dude can i f*** you ex?"
 
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