"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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A few questions on high school girls

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1. At parties, (and i know this has already been discussed on the forum, but i figured it may apply differently with girls in HS) is it okay to get a boner when grinding with a girl? My friends and I joke around about this sometimes, but they all think its really weird and awkward. Keep in mind tho, this is high school girls in talking about.

2. If your at a party, wheres a good place to hook up with someone?

3. Is there anything I should say to a girl if I wanted to hook up with her? I know I read somewhere on this forum of a pretty good line that was like, "Hey do you like surprises?" if shes says "yes" then you can hook up with her. This a good idea?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I can answer some of your questions. When your at a high school party the best way to hook up with a girl is isolate her. Then talk about whatever use tons of kino and then you pretty much got it especially if theres alcohol involved. I'm not sure if I would use that cheesy line though haha.
 

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lol yeah I thought that line sounded a bit cheesy.

Anyways, can anyone else plz answer my questions?

Thanks
 

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Well Rockman, I'm a Junior in high school, and if you dont mind me asking, what grade are you in? Im not asking you to disclose your age. Also, do you drink or smoke, and on a scale of 1-10 rate your "badness". How much Illegal/Immoral/Crazy stuff do you do? There are different High school girls out there, and you must apply different strategies on different ones, at different parties. As for grinding, I know it hurts, but think of something horribly mundane or something horribly un-sexual or ugly to help with your... problem so to speak, because yeah, its a little weird. I always think of 1.Sailors, 2.U.S constitution or 3.Fat girls and that always helps. Cheers!:box:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bawb14 said:
Well Rockman, I'm a Junior in high school, and if you dont mind me asking, what grade are you in? Im not asking you to disclose your age. Also, do you drink or smoke, and on a scale of 1-10 rate your "badness". How much Illegal/Immoral/Crazy stuff do you do? There are different High school girls out there, and you must apply different strategies on different ones, at different parties. As for grinding, I know it hurts, but think of something horribly mundane or something horribly un-sexual or ugly to help with your... problem so to speak, because yeah, its a little weird. I always think of 1.Sailors, 2.U.S constitution or 3.Fat girls and that always helps. Cheers!:box:
Im a sophomore, I dont drink or smoke, and I would rate my badness (with 10 being the baddest kid ever) as like a 3.
 

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I usually get boners when grinding a girl but they seem to love it. What I love doing is we eventually switch positions where we're grinding each other facing each other, and I rub my c0ck all over her leg and they love it.
 

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A lot of people have told me that girls dont mind it/love it, but its those few people that say its really weird and awkward which keep me asking lol.
 

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rockman said:
A lot of people have told me that girls dont mind it/love it, but its those few people that say its really weird and awkward which keep me asking lol.
It depends on the girl. If you rate your badness at a 3 I doubt the girls that you typically hang out with would like that kind of thing, girls that don't drink or smoke are usually very prude in high school. I would rate myself at a 8.5 and the girls I typically hang out would be pissed if they didn't give a guy a boner when grinding haha.
 

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Good post eklipse, But yeah what he says is generaly true. If you're a 3 then in reality, you're a 0. No offence. In fact, its good you'll get farther in life. But still, try and take it easy with girls that you hang out with, they will appreciate it more. Try not to go for the macho jerk approach, but for the sensitive intelligent type. Talk to them, and really get into them before they can begin to get into you. Just start talking and let go, just talk talk talk, works every time. Dont dominate the conversation let her get a few words in edgewise and really try to give the vibe that you are digging her and that you really understand what theyre saying even if it seems like BULLSH1t at the time. Some guys get away with being rude ****s and girls love it, but its not your approach buddy. Stickwith the basics and you'll feel yourself more confident and your game to such a level that party-hooking up will be NO problem, but dont plan on it and dont go for it first time you try, or trust me results NOT guaranteed! Good luck in your romantic affairs Junior pickupartist.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Bawb14 said:
Good post eklipse, But yeah what he says is generaly true. If you're a 3 then in reality, you're a 0. No offence. In fact, its good you'll get farther in life. But still, try and take it easy with girls that you hang out with, they will appreciate it more. Try not to go for the macho jerk approach, but for the sensitive intelligent type. Talk to them, and really get into them before they can begin to get into you. Just start talking and let go, just talk talk talk, works every time. Dont dominate the conversation let her get a few words in edgewise and really try to give the vibe that you are digging her and that you really understand what theyre saying even if it seems like BULLSH1t at the time. Some guys get away with being rude ****s and girls love it, but its not your approach buddy. Stickwith the basics and you'll feel yourself more confident and your game to such a level that party-hooking up will be NO problem, but dont plan on it and dont go for it first time you try, or trust me results NOT guaranteed! Good luck in your romantic affairs Junior pickupartist.
Umm, okay. Just wondering, but have you even glanced at the DJ Bible yet? I know your really new here and it just seems like the advice your giving me is a little off compared to some of the members that have been here for some time.
 

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Well thats because the Bible is geared for Jerks. Your not a jerk are you?! Its a good read and good to remember, but like the real bible, dont take everything too litereraly. Read between the lines.
 

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rockman said:
1. At parties, (and i know this has already been discussed on the forum, but i figured it may apply differently with girls in HS) is it okay to get a boner when grinding with a girl? My friends and I joke around about this sometimes, but they all think its really weird and awkward. Keep in mind tho, this is high school girls in talking about.

2. If your at a party, wheres a good place to hook up with someone?

3. Is there anything I should say to a girl if I wanted to hook up with her? I know I read somewhere on this forum of a pretty good line that was like, "Hey do you like surprises?" if shes says "yes" then you can hook up with her. This a good idea?

you're a little creepfest. if youre reffering to this website for sex advice, you more than likely rape your first time.
 

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First time with preppy high school girls might be a little weird to pop a fatty while dancing dont you think krazy? otherwise, yes I completely agree.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Bawb14 said:
Good post eklipse, But yeah what he says is generaly true. If you're a 3 then in reality, you're a 0. No offence. In fact, its good you'll get farther in life. But still, try and take it easy with girls that you hang out with, they will appreciate it more. Try not to go for the macho jerk approach, but for the sensitive intelligent type. Talk to them, and really get into them before they can begin to get into you. Just start talking and let go, just talk talk talk, works every time. Dont dominate the conversation let her get a few words in edgewise and really try to give the vibe that you are digging her and that you really understand what theyre saying even if it seems like BULLSH1t at the time. Some guys get away with being rude ****s and girls love it, but its not your approach buddy. Stickwith the basics and you'll feel yourself more confident and your game to such a level that party-hooking up will be NO problem, but dont plan on it and dont go for it first time you try, or trust me results NOT guaranteed! Good luck in your romantic affairs Junior pickupartist.
I have serious doubts about this. You're telling me that if I just talk intellectually/emotionally with a girl and build no kind of sexual tension she will want to hook up? You're telling me that if I do those things you mentioned, I'll get girls?

Well, as a matter of fact, I used to do that. Know why its only used to? Because it didn't work. The exact opposite happened, she wanted me to hang out as her lapdog "he's just a friend" thing. As the sensitive intelligent type, it was me she turned to when she wanted to talk about girl problems and what guys she actually wanted to bang at parties. I ran like hell, to say the least.

Please, please give us a semi-detailed account of when this advice has been effective. I'm guessing the "results not garunteed" is french for "this has never worked for me".

There is some theory that attraction goes in steps. The steps are Attraction--->Comfort--->Sex. The problem a lot of guys have, including this guy and including myself at some point, is that they approach it with Comfort--->Attraction--->Sex in mind. But that doesn't work. ****, I'll just link to the theory.

http://ladderwiki.com/w/index.php/M3_Model

You know, you can still be an intelligent and sensitive person who can be the rude *******. Remember that when you are being a rude *******, its a joke. Thats why you do it with a big smile and a laugh -its just teasing. You don't need to actually be an *******, just adopt some ******* type qualities to your existing personallity. This has worked a lot better for me in many, many ways.

I imagine most guys who say getting sprung during a dance is weird and awkward are uncomfortable with themselves. As someone said, she is rubbing you with her ass, if you get hard, thats nice. Just be comfortable with it.

So about the whole "badness" scale... how do you measure your badness, and how bad is it ideal to be? What qualities make you a badass?
For now, I'll try a hypothetical scale.

1)Preist (well... a preist that actually follows the rules)
10)Drug dealer with criminal record and three kids by three women

What qualities and characteristics make you "bad". We don't have to actually make a scale... I'm just wondering. Does drinking make you "bad", even though its kind of the norm, even in high school? Smoking? Just wondering what you guys think.
 

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Perfect post Drumstick. Waiting for someone to contradict me with a good arguement. Sticky-Worthy IMHO. But the idea remains that different girls want a different approach, all of them are different. That in mind, what you said is of perfect relevance.
 

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Perfect post Drumstick. Waiting for someone to contradict me with a good arguement. Sticky-Worthy IMHO. But the idea remains that different girls want a different approach, all of them are different. That in mind, what you said is of perfect relevance.
I totally agree with that bolded part, its definitely true, but the M3 model still stands. :up:
 

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Well in that case Drumstick, I would consider myself a 5. I pretty much dont drink or smoke at all, but I still get into arguments and fights a bit at school.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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