"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A few questions for experienced guys.

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There have been a couple threads recently about not being in game mode when out in the field. I have a similar problem though not the same. Even if I don't feel like opening, I open anyway. I just lack the desire to close. While I kind of have the right attitude "Have fun first, and if you get a number, even better" and don't go home thinking "what if," I'm too complacent now. The exact problem I had before. Before, you could see the desperation to meet a woman in my eyes. Now, it's just like "I'll do my own thing, and unless I see a girl I HAVE to talk to, I won't go the extra distance."

I think this has to do with media idealism and 10 idealism. I've seen a few women, celebrities, girls I've known in the past, and random strangers who to me were 10s without a doubt and it's caused me to be overly picky.

I mean, while the 10 gives you that extra attraction, there's nothing wrong with an 8 or 9. The last girl I dated was an 8.5 and while I didn't want to spend the rest of my life with her, she was prettier than most girls I'd see when we went out together.

My question for guys with a lot of experience...is sex with a woman you think is a 10, or a woman you really like significantly better than with the 8 or 9 that's better than most but you aren't crazy about?

Keep in mind, I approach the 8s and 9s, I just don't seem to care if nothing happens with them. Then I go home and think about the 10s.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If they know they are about a 7 or 8 [not thinking they are a 10], the sex is better[AVIS, we're #2,we try harder]. 10's usually think it is your "privilege to be there" and aren't as active.
 

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From my personal experience, lower #, 6-8, the harder they try in bed.

The 10's are for those times when you want to bust a nut and throw them a side like a dirty underwear.

From what i have seen, many guys date LTR and marry an 8. And by the time a 10 hits the age of 30, they are more worn out then a 60 year olds.

In other words. Fvuck a 10, but marry an 8.
 

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Well I mean 10 as in "your 10" not necessarily playboy/model or anything...let's say both are about the same attractiveness, neither are playboy or models, but one is a 10 to you and the other is an 8...is there that much of a difference in the sex?

I ask because when I masturbate there's a clear difference between porn I really like and porn I just kind of like. The sensation is much better the better I like the porn.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Well go to love.com if you want a discussion on inner beauty.

And unless you're dating fatties, you have no right to talk.

Btw...of course personality matters, but I'm not talking about looking for someone to spend years with. I'm not in my 30s or 40s.
 
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