"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A Dilemma

Limits123

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Hi guys, first post and i have a question for you:

I know a girl who I like intelectually, I admire her way of thinking... but I can't bring myself to wanting to have her as my girlfriend.

So, are looks the only thing that matters, or should you be able to date someone based on her incredible personality?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Amo

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Maybe I'm missing something, but you're asking us to choose whether you want to date that chick. No one can answer that for you except you. If you think she's great not as a friend, but as a potential relationship, then go for it. But if you don't, ask yourself what you want. No one else can tell you.
 

Limits123

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Yeah you're right, I didn't explain myself very well.

I know for a fact that I do not want to date her, because I do not find her pretty enough . While my head says "She's a good match", my gut says "You wouldn't like her enough".
What I'm trying to figure out is if that makes me a shallow, vain person... or if it's ok.
 

MusicMan450

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It's perfectly okay. Men are designed to take looks into account. When a man talks to his friends about a girl, he doesn't say "Dude, she's so into everything I'm into and she has such a GREAT personality:D!"... He'd sound homo.

No, when you look and think of a girl, what do you think of? Exactly, her body, how she looks, her hair, and maybe a little bit of her personality.

I dated a fatty for a year and a half, she had one of the best personalities, and sure, that made me like her, but finally I was like "screw this, I could do better. I can't see myself being sexually attracted to this girl for very much longer, especially as her weight becomes more and more of a problem". So yeah, I broke up with her for her looks, but it doesn't make me an awful person.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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