"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You broke up with her, WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO HER???? You've been here since 2002 and have 1300 posts, you know damn well to go 100% No Contact.

There's no reason for you to be talking to her on the phone, in person, via email, via websites, or in any other way/shape/form.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Warrior74 said:
Firstly. Cut all contact. Don't meet her, don't call her, don't answer her calls/text. If you have to respond, respond with only this. "Look, we both know it's over and I think it's time to move on, there is nothing else left to say. I wish you all the best and good luck" and hang up the phone. But honestly I don't suggest even doing that...she will try to suck you back in with conversation. Her goal is not to get you back, but to come out on top mentally. To feel she is better than you and to belittle you. Trust me on this.

The hardest thing to do as a man is to just accept the situation. It's passive and we are men who tend to want to fix things and want a clean resolution. That anger you feel is really at yourself. If you look deeply enough you will see it's anger at your own weakness, not at her, not at women in general. Your projecting.

Go out with your friends this weekend, focus on having fun and wanting nothing from females. I know that is probably contrary to most advice you would get here (go **** 10 other girls, find some new poon). But you need some time to get back to yourself. If you meet someone, cool. If you see someone checking you out, go for it. But don't worry about it.

If your feeling down, make a list of all the things that are good in your life and take a moment to feel honest appreciation for them. You have your health, your family, your friends, your job, your life! So much to appreciate. Enjoy the things that make you you and have some fun this weekend! Good luck!
I will, I think it's a good idea to focus on my life. Thank you for your input!

I know I have been projecting anger. I am planning on going back into counseling for this as I kind of lost it while with her. I have seen professional help for anger before, but I never expected that anger would show up when I was with her. She and I have our own viewpoints on the things that happened, yet she does not materialize the logic behind the situation and only thinks with her feelings. She kept suggesting to me that I leave and that angered me because we kept having sex. I have not been the person in her life that brings her spiritual joy, but she is attracted to me. For over a year I felt no deep connection with her. Attempts were made to discuss this and she did not make logical sense, like she was refusing to talk about it or didn't know what to say. That's when I started calling her stupid and a cheater, because she has men over and goes out with men and is very private about what happens. She would tell me things like she didn't want to be disposible ass which was confusing because of her lack of connection. So I natually assumed she really is cheating. All of this caused me problems.
 

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CR, use all this information and experiences as Lessons.
Learn from these things.
Find out what makes you happy, and what you want in your life.
And recognize what doesnt make you happy, and what you dont want.
 

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piranha45 said:
You broke up with her, WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO HER???? You've been here since 2002 and have 1300 posts, you know damn well to go 100% No Contact.

There's no reason for you to be talking to her on the phone, in person, via email, via websites, or in any other way/shape/form.
It has to do with the anger that was generated being with her. Going no contact, to me, seems like cutting off an infected limb that could be treated with antibiotics. It's lame that for this to happen I have to play on her terms. But I would rather defuse this anger then let it get buried.
 

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Create Reality said:
It has to do with the anger that was generated being with her. Going no contact, to me, seems like cutting off an infected limb that could be treated with antibiotics.
NO, it is like cutting out a tumor that is slowly killing you.
You are still deluded enough to believe that you can negotiate a relationship which is as toxic and malignant as your's .
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Create Reality said:
It has to do with the anger that was generated being with her. Going no contact, to me, seems like cutting off an infected limb that could be treated with antibiotics. It's lame that for this to happen I have to play on her terms. But I would rather defuse this anger then let it get buried.
Well, at least you KNOW you're going the AFC route. I wonder how many people you've advised against going the AFC route in your 7 years, here. Ironic, isn't it?

You're educated enough to know that going the AFC route is the dumb & destructive route, sacrificing long-term success for release of your short-term feewings, in order that you may be further tortured for X many more months/years than if you went no-contact. So I guess you can't be helped.

When people such as yourself post here about your willing self-destruction, it is very frustrating and aggravating for the rest of us. You would do us all a great favor if you stopped posting here, and transferred to http://advice.eharmony.com/boards/ They will be much more accepting of your AFC outlook.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Firstly. Cut all contact. Don't meet her, don't call her, don't answer her calls/text. If you have to respond, respond with only this. "Look, we both know it's over and I think it's time to move on, there is nothing else left to say. I wish you all the best and good luck" and hang up the phone. But honestly I don't suggest even doing that...she will try to suck you back in with conversation. Her goal is not to get you back, but to come out on top mentally. To feel she is better than you and to belittle you. Trust me on this.

The hardest thing to do as a man is to just accept the situation. It's passive and we are men who tend to want to fix things and want a clean resolution. That anger you feel is really at yourself. If you look deeply enough you will see it's anger at your own weakness, not at her, not at women in general. Your projecting.

Go out with your friends this weekend, focus on having fun and wanting nothing from females. I know that is probably contrary to most advice you would get here (go **** 10 other girls, find some new poon). But you need some time to get back to yourself. If you meet someone, cool. If you see someone checking you out, go for it. But don't worry about it.

If your feeling down, make a list of all the things that are good in your life and take a moment to feel honest appreciation for them. You have your health, your family, your friends, your job, your life! So much to appreciate. Enjoy the things that make you you and have some fun this weekend! Good luck!

awesome post - thanks!!!
 
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