"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A couple of openers

silverfox

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Hi

I am ne to this board and am trying to get this part of my life handled after years of being the cute, harmless, nice guy.

I have been doing the bootcamp started by The_Shezzler and am on week 3's exercises, starting coversations.

I recently moved to a new area and still have to organise a proper flat warming so this is one I have been using, especially at the bus stop coming back from work.

"Hi, I need some input on something, do you know this area well?"

It doesn't matter if she does or doesn't. The next thing is to say.

"I have to organise a party and I'm trying to get an idea of a good bar for everyone to mee to start off in before heading to the flat."

If she can tell you the names of some bars then you know the kinds of places she, and girls like her, might hang out. I mention this because two girls I talked to like this both mentioned the same bar.

Even if she doesn't know the area she'll probably try and help out a little bit and even if she can't help you have already broke the ice if you want to change the subject.

Another one to use is in the supermarket. Assuming you know how to cook a few meals, get the ingredients together. Then if there's a girl you want to speak to you can say something like this.

"Hi, I am trying to cook (an impressive dish) and I've got x, y and z but I'm sure I'm missing something. Any ideas?"

In both these cases you are demonstrating some value/social proof ie organising a party, cooking something other than a ready meal.

They might not get you a #close etc but they are good ways off building confidence by starting conversations with random women.

Just a couple of ideas. :cool:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
This is keyboard jockey crap.


JC Jerkson
every tip is keyboard jockey tips, because we shouldn't be posting in this fukcing forum..

but you're not a kbj, you're just a star wars fanatic lol
 

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
This is keyboard jockey crap.


JC Jerkson
Word. Don't open with excuses. These openers will get women to talk to you, but once you try to get their # or do anything physical you look weird. It's like, why did you fake being interested in that other thing when you were really interested in her?

Field test this stuff before you post it.

-Dan
 

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I did. Like I said, I am following the bootcamp routine and week 3 is opening and holding a short conversation with the kind of girl you would be attracted to. It's not about getting numbers or anything, just getting comfortable with talking.

Week 4 is rejection time and I imagine after that it comes down to getting numbers etc.

Guess I should have put this in a bootcamp thread for other newbies.
 
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