"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A couple of openers

silverfox

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Hi

I am ne to this board and am trying to get this part of my life handled after years of being the cute, harmless, nice guy.

I have been doing the bootcamp started by The_Shezzler and am on week 3's exercises, starting coversations.

I recently moved to a new area and still have to organise a proper flat warming so this is one I have been using, especially at the bus stop coming back from work.

"Hi, I need some input on something, do you know this area well?"

It doesn't matter if she does or doesn't. The next thing is to say.

"I have to organise a party and I'm trying to get an idea of a good bar for everyone to mee to start off in before heading to the flat."

If she can tell you the names of some bars then you know the kinds of places she, and girls like her, might hang out. I mention this because two girls I talked to like this both mentioned the same bar.

Even if she doesn't know the area she'll probably try and help out a little bit and even if she can't help you have already broke the ice if you want to change the subject.

Another one to use is in the supermarket. Assuming you know how to cook a few meals, get the ingredients together. Then if there's a girl you want to speak to you can say something like this.

"Hi, I am trying to cook (an impressive dish) and I've got x, y and z but I'm sure I'm missing something. Any ideas?"

In both these cases you are demonstrating some value/social proof ie organising a party, cooking something other than a ready meal.

They might not get you a #close etc but they are good ways off building confidence by starting conversations with random women.

Just a couple of ideas. :cool:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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tactic

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
This is keyboard jockey crap.


JC Jerkson
every tip is keyboard jockey tips, because we shouldn't be posting in this fukcing forum..

but you're not a kbj, you're just a star wars fanatic lol
 

Spirit Fingers

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
This is keyboard jockey crap.


JC Jerkson
Word. Don't open with excuses. These openers will get women to talk to you, but once you try to get their # or do anything physical you look weird. It's like, why did you fake being interested in that other thing when you were really interested in her?

Field test this stuff before you post it.

-Dan
 

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I did. Like I said, I am following the bootcamp routine and week 3 is opening and holding a short conversation with the kind of girl you would be attracted to. It's not about getting numbers or anything, just getting comfortable with talking.

Week 4 is rejection time and I imagine after that it comes down to getting numbers etc.

Guess I should have put this in a bootcamp thread for other newbies.
 
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