"A Case of the Myoipic Leading the Blind"

[evolvingnerd]

some champ on this forum pointed out to me that that's what i was previously doing
but my hyper-AFC friend is starting to piss me off now
he has NO female friends
yet he imagines he can get the one girlfriend, and keep all his nerdy guy friends
but i've seen him, he's too shy ( ? ) to even look a girl in the eyes when he's talking to them

lately he's been pestering me saying "at this rate i can never get a girlfriend" (which is pretty damn obvious IMO) "so why not quit"

now...how should i proveed?
a couple of guys said to continue on my journey to becoming a DJ and he'll then see how successful i'm being and then follow

can someone elaborate and or suggest other ideas?

 

[waldo]

Yes you should continue on your path to becoming a true DJ, its your life after all, what he does really isn't that important to you. You can set a good example, showing him all the chicks you score with, then see if he's willing to make the change and attempt to become a DJ himself.

 

[squirrels]

Lead by example.

EVERYONE and their mother has the perfect system for making women fall in love with them. Only the ones that WORK will actually get any attention.

Meaning: Telling your friend about some seduction forum/cult you happened to fall upon on the Internet, especially one that challenges a lot of the BASIC assumptions of society, things his mom and dad taught him, is not something he's going to just pick up and run with. Only when he sees examples of it working in real life (for me it was comparing some of my "natural" friends to the things discussed in here, for him it could be seeing you mack women) is he going to give it any real thought.

 

[evolvingnerd]

i've tried talking to him, being a copmlete ******* about it, and he's just "ur acting weird today, i'll ttyl"

from now on, he's definitley gonna get the cold shoulder
*he's also a very boring person btw

i'm gonna definitley try to get more confident around the ladies
and somehow show him that
perhaps he'll come around...

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by evolvingnerd
i've tried talking to him, being a copmlete ******* about it, and he's just "ur acting weird today, i'll ttyl"

from now on, he's definitley gonna get the cold shoulder
*he's also a very boring person btw

i'm gonna definitley try to get more confident around the ladies
and somehow show him that
perhaps he'll come around...

"Cold shoulder" is a chick-tactic. If you feel he's going to compromise your goals in a certain situation, just don't invite him along. Doesn't mean you have to stop being friends completely.

Some people just AREN'T very used to change. Hell, I'm (or at least used to be) one of them...sometimes everything in life falls into a place that you wouldn't mind it being in forever. But things change and so do people.

Don't be so quick to judge other people by their willingness to accept your philosophy...especially when you have a ways to go with it yourself.

 

[Dirtheart]

I know what you mean. I have a friend who has never had a girlfriend. He's good looking, very intelligent, well dressed and very smooth. He could be a great DJ, but he doesn't understand the "game" at all. When I give him advice, he shrugs it off and says "that won't work". Despite the fact that nothing else he has done has worked either and he keeps getting walked over.

But I had friends giving me the same advice a few years ago and I didn't take it either. I think you need some kind of jolt to make you take action for yourself.

 

[evolvingnerd]

hahahaha
very insightful squirrels
and dirtheart, ur like an echo that's exactly what i'm talking about
he's always copmlaining to me how he can never get a girlfriend
but when i explin the apparently alien concept of a female friend, he goes on ranting about how stupid it is
u only need guys as friends and such

i know i used to have similar stupid ingrained philsophies, but i came to realise that i needed to change (i can't remember the stimuli)

so how can i go about showing him he needs to change if he wants a girlfriend?i've seen him, he can't even looka girl inthe eyes when talking, and even then hes figeting around smacking his hands together and rubbing em together and stuff
secondly, he can barelu hold a conversation outside of a video game.
i really want to show him the possibilties out there, but he just seems to be stuck in teh fantasy that the right girl is gonna fall into his lap without his work

 

[So pimp its scary]

Originally posted by Dirtheart
I think you need some kind of jolt to make you take action for yourself.

Like getting shot down by the HB0(with nice ass tho), then a week later having HB9.5 hitting on you and not catching on untill it's too late.

Gaah! That was horrible...

 

[Life-Trainee]

I've known about this site for more than a year, but I didn't take things seriously. My wake-up call was early this year after realizing that I couldn't communicate with women. As a result I missed a great banging opportunity. Major change comes from within.

 

[evolvingnerd]

so noone can think of a way to provoke an "evolutionary response" ?

 

[Interpol]

Originally posted by evolvingnerd
so noone can think of a way to provoke an "evolutionary response" ?

You can't change a person unless they're willing to be changed. I think your best bet is to work on improving yourself for now. If he sees your confidence and ability with the ladies, he'll either start taking your advice or he's just plain retarded.