"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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90% Uni guys are TOTAL AFCs - Plus a little tip for everyone at university

rickyoj105

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I never really realised this fact until this week. I just had my uni freshers week, with all the parties that intails, and then continued the party this week, right up to tonight. I have to say that the number of guys who have acted like complete AFCs for the whole time is totally amazing!! Practically every guy seems completely clueless when it comes to seducing women, they dont play hard to get in the slightest.. and in fact 2 hours ago i was talking to a guy who just followed this girl around ALL night staring at her ass.. he never even made a proper move on her, he just looked and occasiaonally talked, then got her phone number.

For all you guys at uni, it seems to me that its gonna be really easy to get a girl, since this kinda thing has been going on so regularly every night for 2 weeks. TO be honest, and heres a little tip, dont get the number of a girl u like or give her urs if ur in uni - where I am its so easy to bump into anyone, and it happens all the time, so youre guaranteed to see the girl again on campus in the week and u dont have to look desperate - Its a WIN:WIN situation.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Alphathree

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Yeah, guys are total dorks. And they RESIST it when you try to help them, too!

No wonder I've been having a field day.

One guy I know writes a column about how he "farms" his women instead of "hunting" them, referring to his inability to pick up a woman from a club.

More accurately, he just doesn't have any women at all, and is somehow trying to convince himself that he is "farming" his female friends.

As David DeAngelo would say, it sounds like he's growing some kind of fungus.

EDIT: It sounds like you'd do well at the Charisma Sciences Institute. They have really refined game over there including the realization that bullsh~t "cold" approaches are totally unneeded and that C&F is too harsh and won't really get you any lays. But hey, no one around here believes that.
 

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i'm looking forward to uni :D
 

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I agree on both accounts. Most guys I see at uni are desperate, in for the kill types, who get blown out all the time.

And you are right, when you see women regularly on campus, you can take your time and build familiarity.
 

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hell yeah! haha, i realized this in my first year. I was still somewhat of a AFC back then, but even I could tell that some of these guys were way below me. And the girls know it, too! I have a lot of friends who are always complaining about how there are no guys at uni who are clued in when in comes to seducing women.

Oh, and Alphathree, I think that we have conclusively proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. C+F DOES work (in moderate, sparse doses) and cold approaches DO get you laid.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ikkenai

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Originally posted by rickyoj105
and heres a little tip, dont get the number of a girl u like or give her urs if ur in uni - where I am its so easy to bump into anyone, and it happens all the time, so youre guaranteed to see the girl again on campus in the week and u dont have to look desperate - Its a WIN:WIN situation.
If you aren't desparate, you won't look desparate. I don't think this is that great of a tip (sorry, I know all my posts are pretty negative but it's a lot of blind attempting to lead the blind in here). I've put the mack on 20 girls or more that I see on a daily basis. If you don't call her, big frickin' deal. What do you have to lose.
 

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Originally posted by lebRambo
hell yeah! haha, i realized this in my first year. I was still somewhat of a AFC back then, but even I could tell that some of these guys were way below me. And the girls know it, too! I have a lot of friends who are always complaining about how there are no guys at uni who are clued in when in comes to seducing women.

Oh, and Alphathree, I think that we have conclusively proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. C+F DOES work (in moderate, sparse doses) and cold approaches DO get you laid.
I wasn't suggesting otherwise... there's more than one way to skin a cat.

My beliefs are more accurately stated as: "Although you might do cold approaches and use C&F lines and get laid, these things involve a lot more effort than you _actually need_ to get women with very high success rates. They are a stepping stone to natural game, and may not even be needed as that."

I guess it's tempting to do a bunch of cold approaches, do a bunch of lines, and just keep doing it until you get "good" at it and get laid a lot.

But naturals don't do this. They have these things called friends and social circles in which they--wait for it--"naturally" attract women, no lines, no approahes.

Both the natural and the cold approacher get laid, but I would argue that the natural feels a lot better about his daily life, has more meaningful relationships, and spends less time/energy on women.

If you disagree with that and can "conclusively prove" that it's wrong, then I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I'm not on here trying to tell people that I know what I'm talking about. I'm on here trying to help people where ever I think I have something to say that might clarify something for someone else.
 

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oh okay. i guess i just didn't understand what you meant.
 
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