"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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68% ( was 63 untill recently) of men dont date..

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So what are they doing? I keep reading comments from men saying they don't date and they're happier than ever.

So not only are the numbers staggering, there also NOT the pathetic whining that it's sooo hard . Nah, men seem happy and just go about their lifes.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Not sure they're really happy. Seems more like coping to me, don't you think ?

Anyway, numbers may be staggering and nobody gives a fvck, especially women.
Yes and no.

There seems to be a atmosphere where men Re truly happy like this. Makes sense: you can only feel miserable for so long..like a toothache that simply becomes a numb feeling. The brain won't accept pain and hurt 24/7.

The funny thing is that this doesn't even take in account married men...

And women will give a fck . Just don't hold your breath until it happens.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Many men ain't dating or smashing, some guys rather pay for box so they smashing via proxy I guess

Yes and no.

There seems to be a atmosphere where men Re truly happy like this. Makes sense: you can only feel miserable for so long..like a toothache that simply becomes a numb feeling. The brain won't accept pain and hurt 24/7.

The funny thing is that this doesn't even take in account married men...

And women will give a fck . Just don't hold your breath until it happens.
This takes me back to 2016 when I did a deeper dive of MGTOW(learning about the who is who etc) and then you start to realize that a lot of men are just lying to themselves to cope. I have yet to see a MGTOW youtuber or TIkToker who had women in his comments calling him handsome and wishing he would stay and give women another shot
 

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Sucks for those fellas, just as it sucks for that similar percentage of women who are reportedly unhappy. This is also a personal problem for both parties to address... The former can do so by going outside, approaching women out in reality, and just being social more generally. The latter can do so by getting a copy of Burns's Feeling Good, and practicing everything in there
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Sucks for those fellas, just as it sucks for that similar percentage of women who are reportedly unhappy. This is also a personal problem for both parties to address... The former can do so by going outside, approaching women out in reality, and just being social more generally. The latter can do so by getting a copy of Burns's Feeling Good, and practicing everything in there
Do you have a woman?
 

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Many men ain't dating or smashing, some guys rather pay for box so they smashing via proxy I guess



This takes me back to 2016 when I did a deeper dive of MGTOW(learning about the who is who etc) and then you start to realize that a lot of men are just lying to themselves to cope. I have yet to see a MGTOW youtuber or TIkToker who had women in his comments calling him handsome and wishing he would stay and give women another shot
Men would rather pay for box rather than to have nowhere to put their package. :rolleyes:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Women generally don't care when men pursue the MGTOW path. The MGTOW men were generally invisible to them anyway. Most women are too busy chasing the top tier men to notice mid tier or lower men dropping out of the market.
It had never even STARTED for InvisibleCels.
 

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Sucks for those fellas, just as it sucks for that similar percentage of women who are reportedly unhappy. This is also a personal problem for both parties to address... The former can do so by going outside, approaching women out in reality, and just being social more generally. The latter can do so by getting a copy of Burns's Feeling Good, and practicing everything in there
The same thing came to mind for me. There's a group of women that claim they don't need a man so they become cat mom's dog mom's, etc and tell everyone how happy they are while they drink wine with their cats on Friday nights and scoop out litter boxes for fun.

Those men who don't want women in their lives have something wrong anyways. Nothing natural about it. Lacking something .
 

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Those men who don't want women in their lives have something wrong anyways. Nothing natural about it. Lacking something .
Yeah, each time I hear either The Manosphere or The MSM have a near-aneruysm over these statistics, I have a tough time doing anything other than experiencing a pang of pity, then asking "What do these fellas want society or the government to do about this? Is it really even anyone else's role but their own to address these difficulties?"

I'm serious when I ask these questions. Are these guys just asking society to be nicer to them? Do they want women to start handing out pity f-cks more often? Are they expecting Uncle Sam to pass federal legislation guaranteeing them a supermodel once they turn 18, who will remain with them for life, always be dynamite in bed, and never be a moments trouble? What exactly are we supposed to do with these admittedly glum statistics?

When a substantial portion of the male population remains adamant that it's A-OK to go out into the wider world in sweat pants and a concert band Ts https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...ood-looking-enough.282318/page-4#post-3123041 , and still claim to be men, rather than children... Well, it's all but impossible to not think that we're really not helping ourselves much at present
 
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In today's landscape, I'd venture: roughly 60 - 70% of men are invisible to the opposite sex, and get little to no sex.
 

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Any time men willingly take themselves out of the game because they are afraid of competing it's a win for me.

When it's too tough for them, it's just right for me.
With the amount of men taking themselves out of the dating pool (either because they are turning gay or because dealing with women is too much hassle), you would think that a man like yourself would be so physically exhausted from pleasuring endless hordes of single, horny women that he simply wouldn't have the energy to be a prolific poster and moderator on SoSuave. And yet, that's not the case. Why? Because women are doing the exact same thing as men. Most women are not dating. There are tons of single women (and not necessarily ugly ones) who have not dated in years. There has also been a huge increase in the number of lesbians lately. Anyone who hopes to personally benefit from dysfunctional gender dynamics will likely be disappointed.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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