"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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50 yo guy and 26 yo girl ?

BigFoot

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There's a girl at work about 26 years old
that I've had some interest in for a while.
I was on vacation last week, so this week I was thinking I'd ask her out for lunch to possibly get things going.
Well, this week I find out she's interested in another guy at work who is 50, and apparently this interest has been going on for a while.
He likes her, but says she may be a bit young, and I know she wants children and he's not sure.
Has anyone heard of a long term relationship like this working out? I'm kind of hoping this doesn't work out (for my sake) and he's not even sure about her
anyway !!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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salsipuedes

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What are your intentions with this woman? i hope you don't want kids, by the time they where 20 theres a good chance your not going to be there and thats not good, i think the woman is old enough to know what she likes and what she wants.
 

BigFoot

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He is 50, not me. I'm asking if anyone has known similar situations (age difference)
and what the outcome was.
 

JonJack

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Originally posted by BigFoot
He is 50, not me. I'm asking if anyone has known similar situations (age difference)
and what the outcome was.
Knowing whether there are similar situations and whether they had positive outcomes will not make any difference whatsoever. It's not like you're gonna tell her these stories and she's gonna start choosing you over the 50 year old dude.

Even if it doesn't work out between the 2 of them, what makes you think you would be her next choice? Her choosing someone else over you at this point in time should be a clear indication that you're second best to this guy. Things may change later on, but you don't freakin think about it now. You just let it flow.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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vectorz

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No, it's not common for that type large of an age diff. Not to say that it doesn't happen, but it's definitely not common.

Regardless, you've got the wrong mentality. Focus'ing on ONE female only, is not the way of the Don Juan. Obsession = failure as a DJ.
 

DJ_in_making

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Originally posted by BigFoot
He is 50, not me. I'm asking if anyone has known similar situations (age difference)
and what the outcome was.
ask Anna Nicole Smith...
 

TesuqueRed

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Originally posted by BigFoot
...Has anyone heard of a long term relationship like this working out? I'm kind of hoping this doesn't work out (for my sake) and he's not even sure about her
anyway !!
ha - do a search on don steele or at steelballs.com. he does the how to date young women thing and sizes these things up pretty good. you'd be the possible "jimmy" in this equation. love him or hate him, it's an engaging read
 

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Thanks, you guys are correct. I'm wasting my time, esp. since she seems to like him quite abit. It just took me by surprise I guess coming back from vacation and seeing this going on.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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