"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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5 reasons why coffee dates kick a$$

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Many guys wonder about the great places to take a woman out on a first date and how to go about it. Some dating experts suggest dinners, others going for drinks and others minigolf or some type of physical activity which gets her involved.

There’s a place and a time for all of those activities but the ultimate place to take a woman out is for coffee. Why is coffee such an excellent date scenario?

1. It’s very cheap. Dinner can cost you over $100 and drinks at a fancy club can be almost as much if you ad the cover.

2. Women love talking about themselves. If you get them over coffee, they know they have your attention 100% and will start to talk to you about deep things they do not tell most men.

3. Coffee allows you to get her life story. You learn about her and if you are good at asking all the right questions, you can get in her pants really fast. All you need to do is ask her what type of man she is attracted to, what her past relationships were like and you will get a road map to her underwear.

4. If you do not feel attracted to her, you can simply gulp down your coffee and say you gotta go. You aren’t stuck there for a 5 course meal and you feel awkward and uncomfortable sitting across from her.

5. If you truly are interested in her, you can easily escalate things by taking her to another venue, such as a club (if you are having the date in the evening) or go shopping with her if it’s still the day.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good advice. But, I never got into coffee dates. Most of my first dates included lunch (ex; Taco Bell - cheap) and a walk in a park. Or some type of action date.
 

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lol a cheap lunch is good too i suppose, it's equally easy to go away, but it depends on what kind of women you are dating.

it's kinda weird if you take a 30 something year old woman to taco bell for your first date, lol. not very classy, where as a coffee store may be a little bit more appropriate. at least from my point of view.. u know what i mean?
 

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Everyone has their own style. I personally love coffee outtings.
 

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Metaphysical said:
lol a cheap lunch is good too i suppose, it's equally easy to go away, but it depends on what kind of women you are dating.

it's kinda weird if you take a 30 something year old woman to taco bell for your first date, lol. not very classy, where as a coffee store may be a little bit more appropriate. at least from my point of view.. u know what i mean?
STAR BUCKS

Show a little class. (Irony.)

But seriously, a coffee date is cool, I like em. I sometimes do them because I know their cheep... but still fun.:rock:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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as opposed to the clubs - you can actually talk there
 

Metaphysical

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lol starbucks yea.. what you may wanna do is look up on google for 'coffee stores' and type your city in there too..

i found a list of the top 25 coffee stores in my city and set out to try them all out.. now i know which ones are the coolest places around here.. and some of them are actually quite stylish and elegant.
 

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best coffee dates are the ones where you get to grind your own beans
 

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Hey Metaphysical,

Can you go into more detail about what to talk about with the girls? I have no problem taking girls to these little dates but I can never seem to take the girls home. We always end up buddies :down:
 

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Never got into the coffee dates. Maybe cuz im 24,black and live in nyc. So most of the girls that i get with, 18-26 usually like the movies,or lunch or walk in the park thing. Works for me hasnt failed yet. I kind of think the cofee stuff is overrated to be honest but every1 has a diff style
 

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That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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what does that have to do with anything? coffee dates can be done anywhere with anyone.
 

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I think Coffee dates are horrible for getting laid. I rather go to a bar or a lounge and have a few ****tails. I find coffee dates extremely boring. The only way I would recommend a coffee date would be if your meeting a girl from online for the first time. This gives you an idea of how she looks like and makes her feel safe about meeting you. Other than this I say a BIG NO to coffee dates.
 

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I think Coffee dates are horrible for getting laid. I rather go to a bar or a lounge and have a few ****tails. I find coffee dates extremely boring. The only way I would recommend a coffee date would be if your meeting a girl from online for the first time. This gives you an idea of how she looks like and makes her feel safe about meeting you. Other than this I say a BIG NO to coffee dates.
 

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Coffee dates are PERFECT if you have or want to develop conversation skills and wanna work Anti-Dump's MACHINE. (see the archives or the bible or whatever). The goal is NOT to get laid that day. The goal is to fill your pipeline with chicks that are into you.

First date: coffee
Second date: nice dinner someplace, club, whatever
Third date: dinner yourplace + sex.

Or you could just skip date 2, and invite them ALL (not at the same time fool) to your place for dinner second date. The ones that agree and show up, MONEY. The one's that don't or flake, well, see ya.

Or, if you are super confident and have no fear, just pull out the shock and awe close at the end of your 30 minute coffee date at 2pm sober in the broad daylight afternooon.
 

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lookyoung said:
I think Coffee dates are horrible for getting laid. I rather go to a bar or a lounge and have a few ****tails. I find coffee dates extremely boring. The only way I would recommend a coffee date would be if your meeting a girl from online for the first time. This gives you an idea of how she looks like and makes her feel safe about meeting you. Other than this I say a BIG NO to coffee dates.
I agree.

Go for drinks and let loose.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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One thing to remember guys is that not everybody here nor or all the girls they are seeing, 21 and over.

At my University a lot of the girls I'm meeting are 18 and 19. So I can't take them to bars. BTW I lie to them all about my age.
 

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starbucks is classy? their coffee sucks...

But anyway, I'm fine with the coffee date if they have soft couches. I hate hard-backed chars and can't get comfortable in them.
 

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MisterSinister said:
I prefer drinks.
you can't have 5 girls lined up in a day if you go for drinks tho. after 2 you will be drunk as hell as well as spend a fortune on drinks, lol. where as a coffee is 2$ :yes:

clubs down here charge $5 to 10 bucks a drink depending what it is and you can't really hear each other speak

i believe conversation is the greatest tool we have as men
 

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Why would you want to have that many girls lined up in one day? I wouldn't go to a club either, just a lounge. Those are quiet enough.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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