"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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5 dates later and still unsure...What to do?

bacanty5

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So I've gone out with this girl 5 times over the last month or so. I've been trying to take it slow and not rush things. She has been a hard one to figure out. She is fairly quiet and reserved at first. She's not your typical pretty girl. She was kind of dorky in High School, but is now very pretty. We have a lot of fun together and she's even mentioned to me how much she enjoys my company and talks about things we need to do together.

For Labor day, my work had a get-together at a local theme park. I invited her to come and we had an awesome time. We spent all day together, and at the end of the date I gave her a CD of some songs of mine that she had heard on my Ipod and liked. She was very appreciative, and gave me biggest hug I have ever recieved from her. ( No, I haven't kissed her yet. It hasn't been right.)

I called her two days later and she didn't answer, so I sent her a text telling her to call me when she got a chance. I didn't hear from her until the next day. She texted me saying that she was sorry for not calling back, but she had been busy packing for a work trip. I texted her back telling her "No worries...How is the trip?" She texted back and told me she was on the plane and about to take off and that she would talk to me later.

I'm at a crossroads here. When we're together it's awesome. But then she pulls stuff like this. I'm tempted to just walk way. What should I do in this situation??
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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apusislaya

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Go out with her 6th time, kiss her, make out, and f-close.
 

Cashew

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You may be well on the way to being "just a friend." Have you been getting any kino going? She needs to know (without you just saying it directly) that your intentions are romantic. Just going out with her alone doesn't necessarily convey this.

Be manly and go for it. if you are thinking about kissing her, apply the three second rule to that. You have three seconds from your thought of kissing her to laying one on her. By the sound of it, if you don't act on impulse you are going to just think about it too much and never get it done because it has built up too much in your head.
 

bacanty5

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Thanks Cashew. You make a good point. I've just worked it too fast in the past, and got physical way too quick. Not always the girl leaving, many times I get bored once I get the "conquer". I have tried some kino and she is weird about it, she's not touchy feely at all. But her body language is always good. When she is sitting next to me, her body/legs are in my direction.

Man, I like this girl too much. I'm thinking of just backing off for a little bit.
 

Pimp-sicle

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FRIEND ZONE!!!! 5 dates and not even a kiss?? Dude trust me, most girls who argee to go out on a date with a guy, know right then and there that they are physically attracted to him.

Your acting like a friend for the most part, either esclate or stop wasting your time.



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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Rex Man

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She texted me saying that she was sorry for not calling back, but she had been busy packing for a work trip.
C'mon, packing? She's not even trying at this point. The disrespect is already starting to emerge. Either man up and make a move, or move on.
 

tsmith2334

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Cr1msonKing said:
Dudeeeee.

Kiss the *****.

Before it becomes too late and you enter the "F" word zone.



Seriously. The right time is when its your time. If you FEEL like kissing her DO IT.

:up:
 

Tear Gas

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wow, 5 dates? i drop the girl if i dont get my **** wet after date 2.
 
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