Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Aite. Got you down into the Veteran's division.Robyn923b said:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
4th annual Anti AA Competition
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm on 2/7 so far, both HB6's, weren't really conversations though, so I might disregard them later on in the week if I get more than enough quality approaches in.
From now on I'll keep the tally to myself and post a FR type response once the challenge is complete/the week is done.
Good Luck Gents
Gunner
From now on I'll keep the tally to myself and post a FR type response once the challenge is complete/the week is done.
Good Luck Gents
Gunner
countwoofoolah
Don Juan
Gutted I only saw this now !!!!
I shall enter next year
I shall enter next year
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
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TheCleanPleb
Don Juan
I've completed the task, broseph. Also, is your name an Oblivion reference?Gray The Prince said:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
No. My name is Gray and you're supposed to post the FRs. lolTheCleanPleb said:
TheCleanPleb
Don Juan
FR= field reports? Alrighty, I don't really recall the interactions that well, I kinda just talked to people. I'll post some up tomorrow.Gray The Prince said:
Vice
Master Don Juan
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Not sure if this counts, but I got a number from a girl in my class today. It was a "warm lead" as in she offered to help me study like two weeks ago and I never really followed up. She's kind of cute (and healthy), but her hair is in that annoying pixie cut. I kind of had to wrangle her into giving me her number too, I think she didn't want to give it to me in the front of the whole class LOL. She kept trying to get me to message her on the school forum thing or email her. Maybe she was shy?
"Approached" quite a few people today; both guys and girls. My "approach" is to just comment something interesting to the people near me as I'm walking. It's better than walking by myself being bored. Sat down to have a coke with two girls who were eating, a fattie and a cute girl with fake red hair (one of my weaknesses). This was my second time hanging out with them. Red hair girl has a BF but I can tell she liked me, and her boyfriend sounded like a fag. I invited them to the gay club, so I'm sure if she feels like hooking up with me, she'll start hanging around the gay club.
Anyway let me know if that number counts. If not, won't be a problem to make up for it.
"Approached" quite a few people today; both guys and girls. My "approach" is to just comment something interesting to the people near me as I'm walking. It's better than walking by myself being bored. Sat down to have a coke with two girls who were eating, a fattie and a cute girl with fake red hair (one of my weaknesses). This was my second time hanging out with them. Red hair girl has a BF but I can tell she liked me, and her boyfriend sounded like a fag. I invited them to the gay club, so I'm sure if she feels like hooking up with me, she'll start hanging around the gay club.
Anyway let me know if that number counts. If not, won't be a problem to make up for it.
Skyline
Master Don Juan
Vice the random approach/comments to people is the challenge for my division.
Your divions challenge is to number close 3 girls fail or succeed, so now you only need 2 to go. I don't think it matters if they're acquaintances like that though. Ones you hardly talk to that is.
Your divions challenge is to number close 3 girls fail or succeed, so now you only need 2 to go. I don't think it matters if they're acquaintances like that though. Ones you hardly talk to that is.
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Frayzer said:
This.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
CaptainSaveAh0
Don Juan
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Got my 7 approaches done 
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You are allowed to do it at the club right ?
Made myself some new friends, got on the good pages with the bouncers at the most popular club in my city and got myself a few numbers.
Ill break down the numbers ( at the club ).
Had my eye on a HB8 from the start of the night and I knew I wasn't going to leave the club without her number. She was dancing with her friends near the bar my friend decided to approach her so I just chilled out sipping my beer. I saw he came back fairly quick and got shut down. I normally hate approaching girls when they are dancing but I decided to do it anyways. I just went up to her and literally told her I wasn't going to leave the club tonight without talking to her, then grabbed her hand ( Which I like to do always, if they grab back I know they are interested).
She grabbed my hand back and I took her away to the bar where we talked a bit and had a few drinks. She told me she was from outta town so I said if I can guess where shes from she has to give me her number ( she was hesitant about giving her number away at the club). Surprisingly I got it right LOL ( LUCKY ME) and she gave me her number, got a quick kiss in before I let her get dragged away by her whale of a friend.
The second number I got was from a HB7 cute face, nice slim body. Just saw her at the bar and give her the good ol " I THINK YOUR REALLY CUTE" deal.. and it worked and we started talking about her and I just made her laugh a bit to feel more comfortable.
I grabbed her hand ( as usual) and she grabbed mine back. Unfortunately this girl also had a group of friends that were eager to pull her away from me after I took her to the bar. So she said if you find me later I'll let you get me a drink.. So I'm like how about if I find you later I get your number. Then I'm just like fvck it how about you give me your number now LOL and she did.
The other number I Got was from a HB7 who gave mega IOI's from the start when I was chilling at the bar. As she was headin to the dance floor she just grabbed my hand and I went. Was an easy number close from there.
Was a successful night on the town boys.
LESSONS LEARNT:
Get the friends of the girls I'm going for comfortable around me so they approve of me and do NOT c0ckblock me
..You are allowed to do it at the club right ?
Made myself some new friends, got on the good pages with the bouncers at the most popular club in my city and got myself a few numbers.
Ill break down the numbers ( at the club ).
Had my eye on a HB8 from the start of the night and I knew I wasn't going to leave the club without her number. She was dancing with her friends near the bar my friend decided to approach her so I just chilled out sipping my beer. I saw he came back fairly quick and got shut down. I normally hate approaching girls when they are dancing but I decided to do it anyways. I just went up to her and literally told her I wasn't going to leave the club tonight without talking to her, then grabbed her hand ( Which I like to do always, if they grab back I know they are interested).
She grabbed my hand back and I took her away to the bar where we talked a bit and had a few drinks. She told me she was from outta town so I said if I can guess where shes from she has to give me her number ( she was hesitant about giving her number away at the club). Surprisingly I got it right LOL ( LUCKY ME) and she gave me her number, got a quick kiss in before I let her get dragged away by her whale of a friend.
The second number I got was from a HB7 cute face, nice slim body. Just saw her at the bar and give her the good ol " I THINK YOUR REALLY CUTE" deal.. and it worked and we started talking about her and I just made her laugh a bit to feel more comfortable.
I grabbed her hand ( as usual) and she grabbed mine back. Unfortunately this girl also had a group of friends that were eager to pull her away from me after I took her to the bar. So she said if you find me later I'll let you get me a drink.. So I'm like how about if I find you later I get your number. Then I'm just like fvck it how about you give me your number now LOL and she did.
The other number I Got was from a HB7 who gave mega IOI's from the start when I was chilling at the bar. As she was headin to the dance floor she just grabbed my hand and I went. Was an easy number close from there.
Was a successful night on the town boys.
LESSONS LEARNT:
Get the friends of the girls I'm going for comfortable around me so they approve of me and do NOT c0ckblock me
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#1 - Dude at station
"Hey man, you left your backpack open" - "Yeah that's what I always do, blablabla
#2 - Other dude, sitting
"Hi".
Two real small ones, starting with babysteps. Next approaches must be real smalltalk and preferably hot girls.
"Hey man, you left your backpack open" - "Yeah that's what I always do, blablabla
#2 - Other dude, sitting
"Hi".
Two real small ones, starting with babysteps. Next approaches must be real smalltalk and preferably hot girls.
Skyline
Master Don Juan
I think I'm done.
And I envy you club goers... As soon as I run out of chicks to approach at school I have to hit up the malls and stuff. And every club in my area is 21+
I was getting on the bus to go to school, and I greeted the bus driver with "Good Morning."
I was sitting down in a hallway waiting for the bell to ring, a girl walked by and I told her "Good Morning." She replied with the same and walked away.
There's a kid in of my classes who sits behind me, I just asked him "Whats up."
I was waiting outside my classroom and this guy had come out. I just said what's up and just started talking about people we knew in that class and stuff.
A HB:7.5 was walking down the hallway with balloons. I assumed it was her birthday so I told her "Happy Birthday." She then said that it wasn't her birthday and that it was for some project.
An HB:7 in one of my classes had asked me if a girl I knew(HB:8) was there today. We made some small talk about math class and she then said she had to be somewhere and left.
I have physical therapy every Tuesday's and I had gotten a new girl instructor to work with. We made some small talk and I even told her a fake story about how my arm got all messed up. She loved it but had to go for some reason.
All of these have strong eye contact by the way, except the third greet.
And I envy you club goers... As soon as I run out of chicks to approach at school I have to hit up the malls and stuff. And every club in my area is 21+
I was jogging in the park, and a lady with a stroller walked by and we made eye contact. I smiled and said "Hello" and she replied with the same, or at least I think she did since I had music in my ears. I saw her lips move.
I was getting on the bus to go to school, and I greeted the bus driver with "Good Morning."
I was sitting down in a hallway waiting for the bell to ring, a girl walked by and I told her "Good Morning." She replied with the same and walked away.
There's a kid in of my classes who sits behind me, I just asked him "Whats up."
We were standing around in class and this HB:7 was in front of me. I said "Hey" and the next thing I know shes talking about how she hates her job.
I was waiting outside my classroom and this guy had come out. I just said what's up and just started talking about people we knew in that class and stuff.
A HB:7.5 was walking down the hallway with balloons. I assumed it was her birthday so I told her "Happy Birthday." She then said that it wasn't her birthday and that it was for some project.
An HB:7 in one of my classes had asked me if a girl I knew(HB:8) was there today. We made some small talk about math class and she then said she had to be somewhere and left.
I have physical therapy every Tuesday's and I had gotten a new girl instructor to work with. We made some small talk and I even told her a fake story about how my arm got all messed up. She loved it but had to go for some reason.
All of these have strong eye contact by the way, except the third greet.
Starfvcks 64
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I just realized this challenge already started. I'm gonna go out tomorrow and work on this.
Starfvcks 64
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I busted up laughing at this.Vice said:
What?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Peaks&Valleys
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Yeah, that seems to be his thing.Starfvcks 64 said:
"why aren't you guys out at the gay bar meeting girls??"
-Vice
Just like LiveFree is the local move to China and get married aficionado.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
MartinARMT
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Best thing I did at your age was get a fake id. I had no problems getting into bars/clubs and it looked nothing like me.Frayzer said:And I envy you club goers... As soon as I run out of chicks to approach at school I have to hit up the malls and stuff. And every club in my area is 21+
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Anywhere is fine as long as you guys get it done.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.