"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
48 Laws Of Power & The Art Of Seduction
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ShizamDaMan
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Yeah man, I know what you're saying. I say today because a lot of people do seem to think it was different decades ago, that everyone was honest and happy and never needed to lie about anything. Anyone who believes that will simply never get ahead in life.Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
"Parts of society today." the 48 laws of power is a prime example, that honesty and morality have never been that important to any society. I often here ppl talking about how great the 50's were, about the "greatest generation, how in the past men were real men. THis is all false: the problems we have today aren't much different than problems of the past.
I'm NOT attacking your post.
History is probably the best example, which is why 48 Laws of Power uses great historical examples to support the large claims made.
Dimebag_Darrell
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Hell, the other night I went camping and I had a big bag of some light light green that was regular weed but looked like high quality. Well after getting tired of people wanting to buy it, I'd approach em one by one, and I'd sell a few bucks worth and the ones I didnt like I ripped off the next morning, for as they were hungover and ready to go home, I took their car keys and sort of "lost" them. They were more worried about their keys than their weed and so I slowly but somehow copped back most of my weed and kept all my money. It was a good day indeed.
The Antichrist_Star
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Oh hell yes, by leaps and bounds. Mostly because these books teach how to look at the world with a different set of eyes. AOS and 48 Laws not only teaches you techniques, it teaches you how to become those techniques.Originally posted by On_the_Top
Not to sound sinicle or anything but I already knew that, man has been evil and only thinking about himself since the dawn of time. Read the social and governmental works of Hobbes and DeToquriville (sp?) But I do have another question for ya, do you fee you have improved since reading and applying what you read from thee books, because I was seriously thinking about getting them.
AS
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
SeldomSeen
Senior Don Juan
I have both books and yesterday just picked up Roberts 3rd Book "the 33 Strategies of War" which is a nice sized hardback book on strategies of war that apply to everday life.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
I've read both these book and they are both brilliant.
They are both essential AFC reads.
"The Art Of Power" Honestly if you want to arm yourself with the best knowlege for life read this.
"The Art Of Seduction" Not so good if your new or inexperianced at this stuff, but when your abit better it puts the whole thing in perspective, and will take you to the "next level" as i call it.
Reading the site is like readign a book anyway, so why not get some real good books and read em?
SeldomSeen
Senior Don Juan
Originally posted by Jayer
Seldomseen do you think all the laws make sense? Which would you say are the best to use with girls?
as far as the 48 Laws of Power I would say.
Conceal your Intentions
Always Say Less than Necessary
So Much Depends on Reputation – Guard it with your Life
Use Absence to Increase Respect and Honor
Play to People’s Fantasies
Disdain Things you cannot have: Ignoring them is the best Revenge
Now I just started reading the "War Book" but in the preface he says and I quote: "...the greatest battle of all is with yourself-your weaknesses, your emotions, your lack of resolution in seeing things through to the end. You must declare unceasing war on yourself. As a warrior in life, you welcome combat and conflict as ways to prove yourself, to better your skills, to gain courage, confidence and experience. Instead of repressing your doubts and fears you must face them down, do battle with them. You want more challenges..."
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Those laws definitely are great.
Concealing your intentions gives you the ability to exexute your plan without anyone knowing. Not sure how this would work with gilrs considering you have to build up rapport.
Always say less than necessary, definitely applies so that you don't sound like a rambling ****.
So much depends on reputation = social proof which we all know is very very important.
Using absence = not being readilly available, showing u have other interests.... supposidely this gets a girl's interests up
Play to peoples fantasies = definitely makes sense, but every heard to do!
Disdain things = excellent for everyday life!
thoughts everyone?
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Chapter 2Originally posted by Jayer
Can anyone else relate these rules to girls?
"He had created a monster. He had allowed a man to see power up close - a man who wanted more, who asked for anything and got it, who felt encumbered by the charity he had recieved and simply did what many people do in such a situation: They forget the favors they have recieved and imagine they have earned their sucess by their own merits."
This can be applied to the treatment of women as well. If you treat a woman like a princess and give her everything she will think she is one and treat you like a peasent since you do not have the power to deal with her.
The line which is in bold pretty much sums up the confusion men have when they do everything for their women and the women end up leaving them with ease as if those men never existed. Women do not care what you did for them in the past but rather what have you done to make them happy today. Even if you help a women with her problems in the past she will never feel forever grateful to you because she will believe she could have done so without you.
Lesson: Do not supplicate to her whims and make sure you are treated with respect.
DjDamage
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
gifts should be handed out drop by drop so that they can be appreciated more.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
EX: I didn't get laid until last summer and im 28. . . . now im getting action. Even though I'm still an AFC. I blow off *****. and they want me more. the other night, i had two chicks throw it at me - i blew both of em off because it was actually a wierd experience - thats never happened before. but i know that both chicks want me more than ever now.
I'm working on the art of seduction right now, its OK, but i think that 48 outshines it. going to get the rules of war as soon as i get the loot.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.