"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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48 Laws Of Power & The Art Of Seduction

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`The Natural` worked for me on a primary school teacher.

Scary.

`The Dandy` worked for me in a nightclub on a School Boys/Girls night

Scary.


And even more suprising is I did these 2 techniques before reading the book.



btw:

Natural - child-like qualities retained; playing with toes, talking about clouds

Dandy - gender-bender. Wear a skirt and tights to a nightclub and get dancing


Damn, these are amazing secrets and I'm giving them away.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jago, please describe how these characteristics worked for you???

From my impression of AOS, you seduce a person based on their seduction label ("falling star, dandy, natural etc....")

You mentioned that (____) characteristic worked on (____) person. Were you playing the role of the dandy etc , or used their seduction type weaknesses to seduce them???
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Jayer
So you scored with these girls before reading the book, but it was using the same theory?
yes, qualities I have naturally and tend to expose more around female company
 

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The 48 Laws of Power is an excellent read IMO. The sad fact is that people are rarely straightforward with anyone now a days. Lies, deception, and trickery are all parts of society today.

If you present something at work, don't you want to make it sound as good as possible? When trying to make a sale, don't you want to be as successful as possible? Anyone who does anything well uses at least a few of the principles in 48 Laws in some form.
 

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Lies, deception, and trickery are all parts of society today.
"Parts of society today." the 48 laws of power is a prime example, that honesty and morality have never been that important to any society. I often here ppl talking about how great the 50's were, about the "greatest generation, how in the past men were real men. THis is all false: the problems we have today aren't much different than problems of the past.

I'm NOT attacking your post.
 

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Is it really all a game?

I have been refusing to play 100 percent because I keep hoping that the better angels of human nature will prevail. What should I do?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You guys who think this is fake and whatnot should read an excellent article by Robert Greene (the author) on his site and remember how and why married women cheat http://www.seducersworld.com/articles.html It was this article, as well as evidence from past encounters with women where they suddenly became interested in me without my doing anything consciously that made me buy that book.
 

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I've read 48 laws of power and it is a very good book. Not only are the historical examples and stories entertaining (The Yellow Kid story about the conartist was classic) but it's absolutely ruthless in the writing. The book is genius. I see some of these laws used today by some of the world's biggest leaders .. there's definitely some truth in this book. Some of the laws are a bit out there, but some are dead on.

As for whether or not THIS book would help you with women, that's debatable. If you (god forbid lol) decide to put some of the laws to work and do happen to get a powerful social stance, you'll probably have more success with women. Art of Seduction seems like it's more tailored towards making women fall for you, but I've heard it's kind of old fashioned and out of date.
 

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I've downloaded the pdf and I've set january 2006 as the start date to reading it:p

Seriously, I downloaded it for a reason, it has knowledge, whatever it provides is a benefit. Sadly knowledge depreciates with age.
 

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If for nothing else, people should read these books for the incredible stories and the important lessons presented throughtout various stages in social history. One thing both of these books showed me is that, in terms of social history at least, things have not changed very much.

As for the one poster's question. The Art of Seduction, to be honest, isn't like say sosuave, mASF, and the like which is explains the how in terms of getting women. Art of Seduction focuses a lot more on the why and the psychology involved with getting women and why things work and why they don't.

AS
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I am not so sure about the law that says "Court Attention at all Costs"

This law says that negative attention is better than no attention.

What are your thoughts?
 

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They are great books. I own both. If nothing else, both very entertaining reads.
 

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Originally posted by The Antichrist_Star
If for nothing else, people should read these books for the incredible stories and the important lessons presented throughtout various stages in social history. One thing both of these books showed me is that, in terms of social history at least, things have not changed very much.

AS
Not to sound sinicle or anything but I already knew that, man has been evil and only thinking about himself since the dawn of time. Read the social and governmental works of Hobbes and DeToquriville (sp?) But I do have another question for ya, do you fee you have improved since reading and applying what you read from thee books, because I was seriously thinking about getting them.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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