"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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48 Laws Of Power & The Art Of Seduction

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`The Natural` worked for me on a primary school teacher.

Scary.

`The Dandy` worked for me in a nightclub on a School Boys/Girls night

Scary.


And even more suprising is I did these 2 techniques before reading the book.



btw:

Natural - child-like qualities retained; playing with toes, talking about clouds

Dandy - gender-bender. Wear a skirt and tights to a nightclub and get dancing


Damn, these are amazing secrets and I'm giving them away.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jago, please describe how these characteristics worked for you???

From my impression of AOS, you seduce a person based on their seduction label ("falling star, dandy, natural etc....")

You mentioned that (____) characteristic worked on (____) person. Were you playing the role of the dandy etc , or used their seduction type weaknesses to seduce them???
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Jayer
So you scored with these girls before reading the book, but it was using the same theory?
yes, qualities I have naturally and tend to expose more around female company
 

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The 48 Laws of Power is an excellent read IMO. The sad fact is that people are rarely straightforward with anyone now a days. Lies, deception, and trickery are all parts of society today.

If you present something at work, don't you want to make it sound as good as possible? When trying to make a sale, don't you want to be as successful as possible? Anyone who does anything well uses at least a few of the principles in 48 Laws in some form.
 

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Lies, deception, and trickery are all parts of society today.
"Parts of society today." the 48 laws of power is a prime example, that honesty and morality have never been that important to any society. I often here ppl talking about how great the 50's were, about the "greatest generation, how in the past men were real men. THis is all false: the problems we have today aren't much different than problems of the past.

I'm NOT attacking your post.
 

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Is it really all a game?

I have been refusing to play 100 percent because I keep hoping that the better angels of human nature will prevail. What should I do?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You guys who think this is fake and whatnot should read an excellent article by Robert Greene (the author) on his site and remember how and why married women cheat http://www.seducersworld.com/articles.html It was this article, as well as evidence from past encounters with women where they suddenly became interested in me without my doing anything consciously that made me buy that book.
 

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I've read 48 laws of power and it is a very good book. Not only are the historical examples and stories entertaining (The Yellow Kid story about the conartist was classic) but it's absolutely ruthless in the writing. The book is genius. I see some of these laws used today by some of the world's biggest leaders .. there's definitely some truth in this book. Some of the laws are a bit out there, but some are dead on.

As for whether or not THIS book would help you with women, that's debatable. If you (god forbid lol) decide to put some of the laws to work and do happen to get a powerful social stance, you'll probably have more success with women. Art of Seduction seems like it's more tailored towards making women fall for you, but I've heard it's kind of old fashioned and out of date.
 

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I've downloaded the pdf and I've set january 2006 as the start date to reading it:p

Seriously, I downloaded it for a reason, it has knowledge, whatever it provides is a benefit. Sadly knowledge depreciates with age.
 

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If for nothing else, people should read these books for the incredible stories and the important lessons presented throughtout various stages in social history. One thing both of these books showed me is that, in terms of social history at least, things have not changed very much.

As for the one poster's question. The Art of Seduction, to be honest, isn't like say sosuave, mASF, and the like which is explains the how in terms of getting women. Art of Seduction focuses a lot more on the why and the psychology involved with getting women and why things work and why they don't.

AS
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I am not so sure about the law that says "Court Attention at all Costs"

This law says that negative attention is better than no attention.

What are your thoughts?
 

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They are great books. I own both. If nothing else, both very entertaining reads.
 

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Originally posted by The Antichrist_Star
If for nothing else, people should read these books for the incredible stories and the important lessons presented throughtout various stages in social history. One thing both of these books showed me is that, in terms of social history at least, things have not changed very much.

AS
Not to sound sinicle or anything but I already knew that, man has been evil and only thinking about himself since the dawn of time. Read the social and governmental works of Hobbes and DeToquriville (sp?) But I do have another question for ya, do you fee you have improved since reading and applying what you read from thee books, because I was seriously thinking about getting them.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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