"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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4 year relationship. Need advice. Would like to understand.

JoseAlonso787

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I met her in July 2007. Started dating.
Officially went exclusive in August 2007.
Moved in together unplanned after having to move out of my mother's at age 20, I was a full time student, lost my job, didn't put the effort necessary because I believed in focusing entirely on school, mom didn't.

This was September of 2009.
Went in between jobs, crashed my car, became dependent on using her car. One thing after another started happening: She kind of lost her ways to being passionate about painting & poetry but this was actually before the moving in with her thing & I kind of lost motivation for a lot of things. I would work, but not care. Ironic that we'd always previously talked about the fact that moving in too early is something that could potential ruin things. We had always talked about the best time to move in with the SO would be in mid 30's once your career is stable & ready for family.


Horrible approach to it. Didn't work towards getting a car, I'd just spend money on stupid things. Just made bad choices, but the relationship was always good. Whenever we'd go out, it'd be a blast, we have very compatible personalities. Great sex. After a while, money was an issue with me & my lack of motivation didn't help. Later on, I noticed this trend that in every argument she'd say she was unhappy. I always had this feeling that it was the living together scenario. Anyway, I decided in September to enlist into the Navy because I know I need to make changes & make them happen before it's too late. Last week, she mentioned that we needed a change and that was for me to move out. I suppose the final straw was that I'd lost my job a few weeks ago & once again, horrible approach thinking "Meh, I'm going to the military, I'll enjoy this time with my girl, family & friends and I'll look for a part time job while collecting unemployment". Embarrassing, I know. I feel like a whole different person already.


We talked, she told me it'd just been building up over time. The whole feeling like she has to take care of me. She loves us, she just let it build way too much. We've agreed that proper communication could've been executed. I'd expressed to her long ago that I would appreciate the sit downs & her to explain what she NEEDS to have peace of mind. She'd never do that. Both regret that now being that it got to this point. But anyway, I'm back at my mother's & am going to bootcamp in September 2012. I'm looking for work & feeling extremely positive about things. I just feel like I've been growing up and not taking action because of my state of complacement & now seeing that I can't slack, I'm finally on track to growing up.



We came to a conclusion that we're still dating, just with one another having a lot more "me" time as we feel like that'd be best case for me. She's never lived on her own, so I could definitely understand her individuality & she also stated that she wants to get used to the whole not being around me everyday thing as I'm going to be leaving. I guess I just want advice on how to approach this. Sometimes I feel she's slightly distant. Think it stems from her defense mechanism being that it's a reality that I'm going to the military. I've been known as one to say things & not execute on them & once she heard that I turned in my papers (last Tuesday) She had this "talk" with me on last Wednesday & we didn't spend Turkey Day together because she was going through a world of emotions. Ask questions and I'll provide answers & I'd love the help. Way too much to type in here.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Htienvu

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Hey I feel for you mate, a year ago my ex broke up with me after 4 years together as well. Like you I tried to understand it at the time but it didn't make any sense. What I've realised now is simple, she LOST INTEREST in me, that all there is to it. It may have been how I acted during the relationship but once that interest is lost and she wants to part way, there is no point of getting back together because with relationships if it's broken it's very hard to fix.

If you guys haven't officially broken up yet and still dating then what you need to do is to learn everything you can on this site about how to deal with women. Treat her like a new plate you're spinning, act indifferent, get hobbies, get a JOB, go out, meet new people, meet new women even. That way you both get the space you needed and it shows her that she's not the only thing you have going for you.
 

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What you need to do is have dignity and break up with her before she did. She didn't have the balls to completely break up with you even though she wants to. If you don't do it soon she will surely do it in a matter of time.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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