El Payaso
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
4 Reasons You Should Date A Single Mom
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
old_skoolr
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LOL Biggest load of crap I've ever read.
MillionBillionaire
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Lol.. they have fruit rollups ... that you will now pay for.
Ok let us read this...
"1. Single moms are mature"
Sure bro... Mature enough to have had a child out of wedlock, or to have divorced a man instead of actually trying to work out the problems, or mature enough to have had a child with an immature man who they could not stand to have an actual relationship with.
"2. They have fruit roll ups"
What? This makes no sense... Why is this even a reason? Looks like this guy could not come up with 4 good reasons for his little article so he just pulled one out of his arse.
In fact a single mom in the comments section wrote: "be the man and bring a box with you to share with the kids." So you are going to be the one expected to buy the fruit rollups.
"3. Single moms are very independent"
They may seem that way except most of them are dependent on government subsidies like WIC and food stamps. And as soon as you step in they will become dependent on you. Also "single moms are so busy they can only connect on a schedule" seem like a reason NOT to date them rather than a reason to date them.
"4. Single moms are patient committed and loyal"
So patient, committed, and loyal that they were able to create a stable and loving relationship with the father of their child... Oh... Wait....
"1. Single moms are mature"
Sure bro... Mature enough to have had a child out of wedlock, or to have divorced a man instead of actually trying to work out the problems, or mature enough to have had a child with an immature man who they could not stand to have an actual relationship with.
"2. They have fruit roll ups"
What? This makes no sense... Why is this even a reason? Looks like this guy could not come up with 4 good reasons for his little article so he just pulled one out of his arse.
In fact a single mom in the comments section wrote: "be the man and bring a box with you to share with the kids." So you are going to be the one expected to buy the fruit rollups.
"3. Single moms are very independent"
They may seem that way except most of them are dependent on government subsidies like WIC and food stamps. And as soon as you step in they will become dependent on you. Also "single moms are so busy they can only connect on a schedule" seem like a reason NOT to date them rather than a reason to date them.
"4. Single moms are patient committed and loyal"
So patient, committed, and loyal that they were able to create a stable and loving relationship with the father of their child... Oh... Wait....
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Her mistakes in life are your mistakes in your life.
Her baggage is your baggage.
Her children are your children.
Her Ex is your Ex.
The list goes on, on, and on.
You have heard about "Buy One, Get One Free" deals. With single moms, you buy a single mom, you get many free.
Her baggage is your baggage.
Her children are your children.
Her Ex is your Ex.
The list goes on, on, and on.
You have heard about "Buy One, Get One Free" deals. With single moms, you buy a single mom, you get many free.
reason to not date a single mother
you will bill for her mistake(the child)
you will still have to deal with the father
you will never be her priority, if you are then she is not a good mom and not a LTR material
you will have to deal with a child who normally will not like you
why waste time with her when there is younger hotter and childless woman around?
could keep going but meh I guess we all get the point
if the dude also have children too I could guess he find it ok, but still i'm not seeing any reason to even do so
you will bill for her mistake(the child)
you will still have to deal with the father
you will never be her priority, if you are then she is not a good mom and not a LTR material
you will have to deal with a child who normally will not like you
why waste time with her when there is younger hotter and childless woman around?
could keep going but meh I guess we all get the point
if the dude also have children too I could guess he find it ok, but still i'm not seeing any reason to even do so
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There's only 4 reasons to date a single mom? Wow. There's many more reasons to date a young childless woman.
Single moms are mature
Of course they are. They're also very independent and don't need men.
Single moms have Fruit Roll-Ups in their cabinets — at all times
This reason is irrelevant because I eat decent food.
Single moms are very independent.
I already covered this under the "mature" reason, so this one is irrelevant too.
Single moms are patient, committed and loyal
...to their children. They aren't so much with regards to the men they sleep with, due to High Score Theory. Some other dude (possibly the child's father) has the top spot. Therefore, every man under him is completely disposable.
So there are two reasons, and those reasons aren't very good. The only good reason to date a single mom is: Pump and Dump.
Single moms are mature
Of course they are. They're also very independent and don't need men.
Single moms have Fruit Roll-Ups in their cabinets — at all times
This reason is irrelevant because I eat decent food.
Single moms are very independent.
I already covered this under the "mature" reason, so this one is irrelevant too.
Single moms are patient, committed and loyal
...to their children. They aren't so much with regards to the men they sleep with, due to High Score Theory. Some other dude (possibly the child's father) has the top spot. Therefore, every man under him is completely disposable.
So there are two reasons, and those reasons aren't very good. The only good reason to date a single mom is: Pump and Dump.
This is the type of brainwashed jackass blue pill society WANTS you to be... 100% non-judgmental of women so that all women are free to be as fat, irresponsible, stupid, obnoxious and abusive as she wants without risk of rejection or retribution.
Blue pill society has been trying to manipulate men into accepting low quality, low hanging trash fruit for a long time. Blue pill society shames men for having any standards at all. You're a pig if you want a woman to be in shape and healthy. You're a creep if you want a woman to be young and attractive. You're a loser if you're single past a certain age. And it goes on...
Don't take the bait. Women are getting increasingly lazy and carefree around men because they know so many are brainwashed white knight beta drowns.. so thirsty and desperate that they would marry any cow to avoid being "alone".. because to be "alone" is to be a "failure" according to blue pill society.
CONVINCING MEN THEY NEED TO COMMIT TO WOMEN TO BE HAPPY IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CON JOB PULLED ON MEN TO DATE. And it allows loser women to get and keep men when they should be living with 20 cats.
Blue pill society has been trying to manipulate men into accepting low quality, low hanging trash fruit for a long time. Blue pill society shames men for having any standards at all. You're a pig if you want a woman to be in shape and healthy. You're a creep if you want a woman to be young and attractive. You're a loser if you're single past a certain age. And it goes on...
Don't take the bait. Women are getting increasingly lazy and carefree around men because they know so many are brainwashed white knight beta drowns.. so thirsty and desperate that they would marry any cow to avoid being "alone".. because to be "alone" is to be a "failure" according to blue pill society.
CONVINCING MEN THEY NEED TO COMMIT TO WOMEN TO BE HAPPY IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CON JOB PULLED ON MEN TO DATE. And it allows loser women to get and keep men when they should be living with 20 cats.
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LiveFreeX
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John Hughes did a good movie called DUTCH (1991) about a guy who has to go and pick up a single mom's kid and how much of a spoiled little sh1t he is. The movie is funny but IRL this little sh1t would be a fkin nightmare to have around and stuff never ends like it does in the movies. The number one reason not to date a single mom? Her kids.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
El Payaso
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Remember, you're not a "real man" if you decide to hook up with a fresh young college girl instead of a used up single momma.
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I am sofa king we todd it.
Skyline
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Just yesterday I was in the park and heard a loud crashing noising from the road not far from us. Me and my buddies went down and a girl with 4 other passengers jumped out of the car and began changing their front tire whilst yelling that "she just blew a tire."
In reality, she blew a tire by hitting a curb because she was going too fast around a really sharp turn. The turn was rated at 15 MPH and I'm assuming she took it at 20 MPH causing her to slam on the brakes, hit a curb, and risk her 3 other passengers.
She was just laughing and seemed like she didn't care. She kept laughing saying it was just a flat and I was just thinking, she could have jumped that curb into oncoming traffic and seriously hurt 4+ people because she didn't care.
Also, the damages to her car. Her front bumper is dented, tire blown, possible rim damage, control arm definitely bent, and her bushings are most likely cracked. That's on top of putting herself and 3 other people at risk. If she were to have hit someone that's definitely a law suit.
But she didn't care. If this is how most of women are being raised then I'm seriously worried.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
El Payaso
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Yup. A woman's main goal in life is to maximize her enjoyment with as little responsibility as possible.
MillionBillionaire
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Meanwhile the girl is thinking "Oh man.. whatever happened I know this wasn't MY fault. Stupid tire, stupid car. Oh well good thing these cucks are here to fix my car. Why are they taking so long to fix my car? WHAT IS THEIR PROBLEM. If xyz wasn't trying to talk to me of course this wouldn't of happened. This is ALL THEIR fault. Stupid men. I am the victum." "Gawd they are going sooooo slow, why won't they just STFU and fix the car already. Hopefully someone hot in a BMW can come and pick me up." "I'm hungry, someone better buy me lunch for all the trauma I am going through." "Good thing I'm sooo hot and they are soo stupid."
Meanwhile the guys are competing to see who can be the hero, the guy who looks up on google how to properly fix a flat tire or the guy that does all the muscle work or the guy that tries to comfort the girl. "Yea.. this will give me the much needed brownie points for sure.. I hope she will see how awesome I am and finally let me take her out on a date!"
JJRocker
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So I'm curious. Is it impossible to find a quality woman after she has a child? Ludicrous! That's just as bad as saying there are no quality women left period! Let the chumps fight over the table scraps like the dogs they are. While they are busy with bimborella there is a single mom at the Starbucks across from the daycare, you know the one driving the Lexus with the pants suit on the way to her law firm. Consider this of you want to trap an ally cat. Some chicken gizzards in the dumpster will work just fine. To trap the cougar you need to know its habits and habitat.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.