4/10 Nerdy Asian girl: "I'd rather be a temporary fleshlight to a 10/10 man than a housekeeper to a 5/10"

[Identikit_Radiohead]

And because of kunts like her (who want the genocide of their looksmatch), we have based events (in GTA5) like this....

Call me a sick, twisted bastard, idk.

 

[Gamisch]

That escalated quick...

And still I'm " glad"you bring it up. Because imo no woman is obliged to give her body to no man
This is not an 1300 Arabic country, but the so-called " most advanced nation" on earth.

Perhaps thos damn gun laws should be eliminated. What's the reason that idiots like this can get heavy armor? So YOU can feel masculine. This guy shyte is one of the many huge flaws the US has.

And spare me the tyranny gov'ment bs . This is the most tyrannical admiration I've ever seen.

 

[Gamisch]

That escalated quick...

And still I'm " glad"you bring it up. Because imo no woman is obliged to give her body to no man
This is not an 1300 Arabic country, but the so-called " most advanced nation" on earth.

Perhaps thos damn gun laws should be eliminated. What's the reason that idiots like this can get heavy armor? So YOU can feel masculine. This guy shyte is one of the many huge flaws the US has.

And spare me the tyranny gov'ment bs . This is the most tyrannical admiration I've ever seen.

Oh , and I know we have a bunch of incels here who will say their guns are "really important " to them. Let me tell you something.

The irony is that dudes like that are actually part of the manospere. Like you (op) concluded, the frustration turns violent and now boom, you have a country with lets say around 100 million men who can turn into the terminator at any point in time.

Americans, when will yall wake the F up and take accountability?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Oh , and I know we have a bunch of incels here who will say their guns are "really important " to them. Let me tell you something.

The irony is that dudes like that are actually part of the manospere. Like you (op) concluded, the frustration turns violent and now boom, you have a country with lets say around 100 million men who can turn into the terminator at any point in time.

Americans, when will yall wake the F up and take accountability?

Never. American guns are the world's last hope.

And Eliot Rodger was a psyop. Just ask Bianca DeKock who was "shot" 5 times and was walking without assistance and giving major tv network interviews a mere 7 days later. The incels at Boston Dynamics are the ones we should be worrying about, not the everyday ones on the street.

Unless you want to Own Nothing And Be Happy, you need American guns even if they are across the ocean.

 

[Gamisch]

Never. American guns are the world's last hope.

And Eliot Rodger was a psyop. Just ask Bianca DeKock who was "shot" 5 times and was walking without assistance and giving major tv network interviews a mere 7 days later. The incels at Boston Dynamics are the ones we should be worrying about, not the everyday ones on the street.

Unless you want to Own Nothing And Be Happy, you need American guns even if they are across the ocean.

Yeah bro, its really important that inbred Jimmy and Pookie from the hood got heavy machine guns. Makes all of us around the globe feel safe.

Tbh I can't even feel sorry for yall anymore. Yall clearly love to see people getting massacred.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Maybe when she's young. Tres Doritos después she wants to start a family but now no one wants her

 

[BaronOfHair]

Fair inference: After the second or third time he dropped by Waffle House, and discovered Golden Retriever still hadn't been placed on the menu, dude's disillusion with The US became irreversible. Insofar as the aptly named Diane Yap's comments go, girl worries needlessly:

Not even a bona fide zero would lower himself to the point of sniffing her f-cking socks, much less mistake her for something worth boning

 

[craider]

Where are you from @Gamisch? One of these ****holes where you let foreigners rape your women so you can stick it to whitey?

The whole point of the second amendment is to defend against clowns like you who would otherwise install their version of "accountability" as a law. You think yourself right but from outside you just look like a raging tyrant.

 

[Solomon]

I mean, let's be honest if the roles were flipped around, most guys would love to be the bootycall for a 10, then be the husband of a 5.....not sure why men are shocked by this in 2026, these YOUNG women (18-25) aren't marriage centered compared to women of the past...

 

[HaleyBaron]

I mean, let's be honest if the roles were flipped around, most guys would love to be the bootycall for a 10, then be the husband of a 5.....not sure why men are shocked by this in 2026, these YOUNG women (18-25) aren't marriage centered compared to women of the past...

Actually, you got that reversed. Most guys would want to be a bootycall to a less attractive woman because it's less annoyances and less money to keep her happy. The married woman is for good genetics for your kids and to show off to everyone else. That's why every celebrity or sports star who ****ed around settled with the hot one, while ****ing anything and everything outside the home.

@Gamisch I know people overseas in Europe who wish they could carry more guns to protect against the invading hordes of immigrants, but are made not to by their own police. The ghettos of these crime ridden areas are only increasing in size. The cost of your accountability is increased crime. But hey, at least your sensibilities are settled for. That's all that matters, right? As long as guns are outlawed, it doesn't matter that someone's daughter gets raped or someone's son gets stabbed by a knife. At least guns are gone!

 

[Solomon]

Actually, you got that reversed. Most guys would want to be a bootycall to a less attractive woman because it's less annoyances and less money to keep her happy. The married woman is for good genetics for your kids and to show off to everyone else. That's why every celebrity or sports star who ****ed around settled with the hot one, while ****ing anything and everything outside the home.

You're making my point for me. Most guys would rather keep the hotter woman as the bootycall because she is still lower maintenance in that role. Even if you marry a 5 who is low maintenance, marriage still comes with real expectations. You pay the mortgage, raise the kids, and handle everything else that comes with the title. A hot woman kept strictly as a bootycall has one expectation only. You rail her for a few hours and make her orgasm a few times. That is it.

Most guys would rather have sex with a hot woman. I have never heard a guy say he is looking to bang a 5 at the club unless the guy himself is not attractive.

 

[corrector]

Most white guys are like 10/10 to those 4/10 asians anyway.

 

[Gamisch]

Actually, you got that reversed. Most guys would want to be a bootycall to a less attractive woman because it's less annoyances and less money to keep her happy. The married woman is for good genetics for your kids and to show off to everyone else. That's why every celebrity or sports star who ****ed around settled with the hot one, while ****ing anything and everything outside the home.

@Gamisch I know people overseas in Europe who wish they could carry more guns to protect against the invading hordes of immigrants, but are made not to by their own police. The ghettos of these crime ridden areas are only increasing in size. The cost of your accountability is increased crime. But hey, at least your sensibilities are settled for. That's all that matters, right? As long as guns are outlawed, it doesn't matter that someone's daughter gets raped or someone's son gets stabbed by a knife. At least guns are gone!

I get it ...its ingrained into your culture. Yet ,the truth might be somewhere in the middle.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if we allow guns in Europe, that those "hordes of immigrants " will ALSO be more dangerous than they are now....

Regardless of how you feel, yiu cant deny that guns are problematic. But again ; its ingrained in US culture so these victims are considered " collateral damage". Untill it yiur own child...

 

[Gamisch]

Where are you from @Gamisch? One of these ****holes where you let foreigners rape your women so you can stick it to whitey?

The whole point of the second amendment is to defend against clowns like you who would otherwise install their version of "accountability" as a law. You think yourself right but from outside you just look like a raging tyrant.

LOL

Ofcourse you dont give a shyte about people getting their brains blown out. You are just that type dude...you'll defend the indefensible "just because ". I dont care bro. I domt have to be on edge because every idiot can carry a machine gun and go Robocop at any given moment. My life is peaceful and always been that way!

And no, having a constructive discussion with an angry incel doesn't work. So let's agree to disagree.

Bon dias senor.

 

[HaleyBaron]

You're making my point for me. Most guys would rather keep the hotter woman as the bootycall because she is still lower maintenance in that role. Even if you marry a 5 who is low maintenance, marriage still comes with real expectations. You pay the mortgage, raise the kids, and handle everything else that comes with the title. A hot woman kept strictly as a bootycall has one expectation only. You rail her for a few hours and make her orgasm a few times. That is it.

Most guys would rather have sex with a hot woman. I have never heard a guy say he is looking to bang a 5 at the club unless the guy himself is not attractive.

The guys who constantly fantasize about wanting to be a bootycall to a hot woman are losers who tend to only get unattractive women, IF they get any women at all. They're no different from the women who fantasize getting the hottest guy. Except it's easier for the woman than it is for the man to achieve their goal. They are not the source of truth.

The reality is that men settle with the best they can get, often the most attractive they can get with their own attraction. Ugly men would get ugly women. Average men with average women [and sometimes a little above depending on factors like money or fame]. And hot men will get with hot women. But the ceiling for a man is based on that, which is why they inevitable realize that less is more as long as p*ssy is p*ssy. Men tend to **** uglier women far more easily regardless of their own attraction level. Multiple hot guys who have ****ed fatter or uglier women cause it's easier. This is the constant trend.

Married guys who say they wish their wives were hotter, it's because they thought their wife the world before she got fatter and/ or more annoying at home living with her for a while. So it's less about wanting a hot wife, and more about wanting a more fun girl. You confused this for men wanting hot women as a bootycall. On the contrary, they just want an easier f*ck and validator. Hot women are the last people to give that to most men.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I get it ...its ingrained into your culture. Yet ,the truth might be somewhere in the middle.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if we allow guns in Europe, that those "hordes of immigrants " will ALSO be more dangerous than they are now....

Regardless of how you feel, yiu cant deny that guns are problematic. But again ; its ingrained in US culture so these victims are considered " collateral damage". Untill it yiur own child...

This isn't a culture thing. This is a natural sense of self defense. Every human on the planet has it instilled in them to protect themselves. It takes social engineering like you have been put through to brainwash the masses that defending yourself is bad, and to leave it to the daddy state to take care of you. The least manly thing you can do. And is a great litmus test to test someone's masculinity and intellect level. Which is sad, cause I thought you better than this. I didn't know you were one of those anti-gun nuts who think having guns is just out of some sense of national pride or whatever you got told.

Now going to you talking about that the immigrants will be dangerous if the guns were allowed...did you ever think that the immigrants would have been kept back if they knew their neighbors had guns? No, it never occurred to you. None of them are stabbing or killing people in mass in the US, I can tell you that. The most attacks happened around city areas like yours where they banned guns to begin with.

You also on one hand say that the victims are collateral damage, and then fail to address me saying in my post that I brought up that people are being raped and killed even in gunless societies. And instead of criticizing the source of your own woes (politicians taking away your ability to defend yourself while letting in dangerous criminals), you go to the easiest thing: taking away someone's right to defend themselves with a gun. Because you're the definition of a manchild.

Don't worry, Gamisch. Daddy state will protect you. Just sit there and continue to argue that guns are bad on the internet. You're being a good little boy.

Ofcourse you dont give a shyte about people getting their brains blown out. You are just that type dude...you'll defend the indefensible "just because ". I dont care bro. I domt have to be on edge because every idiot can carry a machine gun and go Robocop at any given moment. My life is peaceful and always been that way!

Your life is not peaceful. You're in a state of false peace cause you believe as long as daddy state is around, you can sit there freely with no worries. You are the epitome of the ignorant suburban male that just because he doesn't encounter any danger, it'll never come. And when it does, you're caught with your hand in your ass. Or you ignore it to make yourself feel better.

 

[Solomon]

The guys who constantly fantasize about wanting to be a bootycall to a hot woman are losers who tend to only get unattractive women, IF they get any women at all. They're no different from the women who fantasize getting the hottest guy. Except it's easier for the woman than it is for the man to achieve their goal. They are not the source of truth.

The reality is that men settle with the best they can get, often the most attractive they can get with their own attraction. Ugly men would get ugly women. Average men with average women [and sometimes a little above depending on factors like money or fame]. And hot men will get with hot women. But the ceiling for a man is based on that, which is why they inevitable realize that less is more as long as p*ssy is p*ssy. Men tend to **** uglier women far more easily regardless of their own attraction level. Multiple hot guys who have ****ed fatter or uglier women cause it's easier. This is the constant trend.

Married guys who say they wish their wives were hotter, it's because they thought their wife the world before she got fatter and/ or more annoying at home living with her for a while. So it's less about wanting a hot wife, and more about wanting a more fun girl. You confused this for men wanting hot women as a bootycall. On the contrary, they just want an easier f*ck and validator. Hot women are the last people to give that to most men.

Your framing is off. Wanting a hotter woman as a bootycall is not some exclusive loser fantasy. It is the default male preference across attractiveness levels. Most men will take the hottest available option for pure sex if the logistics are easy. That is not the same as long term pairing standards.


Men do settle in relationships based on their own level. That part is true. Casual sex is a different market. Plenty of attractive guys still go after hotter women when the opportunity is low effort. The idea that men prefer uglier women just because they are easier ignores how often the same men will chase hotter ones the second access opens up.

Married guys complaining about their wives is usually about the combination of weight gain, attitude, and lost novelty. That does not prove they never wanted the hotter version in the first place. It proves living with someone long term changes the equation. Bootycall dynamics never had those costs to begin with.

Hot women are harder for most men to lock down casually. That is obvious. It does not mean the preference disappears. It just means most men end up taking what is realistically available. Preference and outcome are not the same thing.

 

[Gamisch]

This isn't a culture thing. This is a natural sense of self defense. Every human on the planet has it instilled in them to protect themselves. It takes social engineering like you have been put through to brainwash the masses that defending yourself is bad, and to leave it to the daddy state to take care of you. The least manly thing you can do. And is a great litmus test to test someone's masculinity and intellect level. Which is sad, cause I thought you better than this. I didn't know you were one of those anti-gun nuts who think having guns is just out of some sense of national pride or whatever you got told.

Now going to you talking about that the immigrants will be dangerous if the guns were allowed...did you ever think that the immigrants would have been kept back if they knew their neighbors had guns? No, it never occurred to you. None of them are stabbing or killing people in mass in the US, I can tell you that. The most attacks happened around city areas like yours where they banned guns to begin with.

You also on one hand say that the victims are collateral damage, and then fail to address me saying in my post that I brought up that people are being raped and killed even in gunless societies. And instead of criticizing the source of your own woes (politicians taking away your ability to defend yourself while letting in dangerous criminals), you go to the easiest thing: taking away someone's right to defend themselves with a gun. Because you're the definition of a manchild.

Don't worry, Gamisch. Daddy state will protect you. Just sit there and continue to argue that guns are bad on the internet. You're being a good little boy.




Your life is not peaceful. You're in a state of false peace cause you believe as long as daddy state is around, you can sit there freely with no worries. You are the epitome of the ignorant suburban male that just because he doesn't encounter any danger, it'll never come. And when it does, you're caught with your hand in your ass. Or you ignore it to make yourself feel better.

You see the difference in tune and tone?

I say " the solution is somewhere in the middle". Im also able to critically think for myself, thus I realise that mass immigration is a bad thing just like mass shootings...You say shyte like " feck you Gamisch you are brainwashed and the immigrants will rape your women!!!!!!". I say my life is peaceful as I never had to be afraid of getting shot( facts). You; no Gamisch you should be afraid ,your life aint peaceful!!"( like whut???) . You think you can go John Wick one day, not realising that if everyone carries a gun its equally dangerous as nobody having one!. Women getting graped in the US as well.

I'm shook because AGAIN there's a massive shooting in a first world country. You be like " yeah but its my right to carry a machine guns!!!!!" Meanwhile you haven't said ANYTHING sympathetic towards the victims!

Long story short; I'm trying to have a constructive discussion while telling you that there's definitely another way to go about things. You on the other live in a scarcity mindset ,where you are afraid of thing you actually create...

And before you get your panties in a wad again, breathe and read what I'm trying to say; its not an easy conversation to have, but allowing every idiot and his brother to have easy access to heavy guns isn't it neither. The MIDDLE. The solution is something that takes time ,discussion, broader point of view, shsring experiences ect.

One can admit that guns are problem while simultaneously being aware that self protection is also important... its not difficult to see this is an chicken / egg dillema. Will less guns mean less shootings or will it mean more crime? What do you think?

Let's agree to disagree..I dont have to worry that an angry incel shoots up the club and I'm glad I don't. You dont care and shrug it off when it happens. That's one of the many CULTURAL differences between us.

 

[Bigpapa]

Your framing is off. Wanting a hotter woman as a bootycall is not some exclusive loser fantasy. It is the default male preference across attractiveness levels. Most men will take the hottest available option for pure sex if the logistics are easy. That is not the same as long term pairing standards.

fair points

I would go even deeper than this, if guys could choose between a 10/10 woman and have just sex or dating a 5/10 girl that has attitude and kinda annoys him ( how usually women are )

I really doubt that he will go with the 5/10 just because she is offering him the boyfriend spot

same thing with that girl that the op says is a 4/10, rather than to be annoyed by some insecure 5/10 guy, better to be ‘used’ by a 10/10 guy

We kinda forget that a big majority of guys are annoying, insecure and basically you do not want even to have a beer with them

that’s why the whole rhetoric of the black and red pill is very stupid, because it does not focus on the individual

When you criticize society, people tend to forget that a society is made up of people, and is not that the society corrupts people but more about that ( weak ) people corrupts the society

and that is why the pua mindset is a bit better, though puas focus too much on technicalities

 

[HaleyBaron]

Your framing is off. Wanting a hotter woman as a bootycall is not some exclusive loser fantasy. It is the default male preference across attractiveness levels. Most men will take the hottest available option for pure sex if the logistics are easy. That is not the same as long term pairing standards.


Men do settle in relationships based on their own level. That part is true. Casual sex is a different market. Plenty of attractive guys still go after hotter women when the opportunity is low effort. The idea that men prefer uglier women just because they are easier ignores how often the same men will chase hotter ones the second access opens up.

Married guys complaining about their wives is usually about the combination of weight gain, attitude, and lost novelty. That does not prove they never wanted the hotter version in the first place. It proves living with someone long term changes the equation. Bootycall dynamics never had those costs to begin with.

Hot women are harder for most men to lock down casually. That is obvious. It does not mean the preference disappears. It just means most men end up taking what is realistically available. Preference and outcome are not the same thing.

Most men will take the most convenient and best attractive option for pure sex. Your parameters are off.

In casual sex, men go after women who shoot above his wife, which is not hard unless she is one of the uncommon few that keeps fit and remains feminine. She doesn't need to be any hotter. Just better in many traits and not nagging. Realistic, hot women are not good bootycalls, and men inherently know this. Hot women require a price. Now granted, this is speaking from the US pov. In places like Europe, Eastern Europe specifically, men can go have sex with a hot woman for $50 a pop. I've talked with plenty of men there. And they told me eventually, you get tired of it and rather have an average enough woman that who will **** you for free. There is also a sense of being a man being able to **** women without having to pay money.

Summary: your definition of men's preference for hot women for bootycalls is missing other parameters.