"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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3 incidents of direspect!!!

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Fcuk this is quite fun. If you want I can crack examples 2 and 3 also. But only if you want :p


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Sorry I couldn't resist.

Example Two:
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HER RESPONSE - I WILL TALK TO WHAT EVER MAN I WANT, NO MAN TELLS ME WHAT I CAN & CANNOT DO!!!
Only a boss tells her what to do.
MY RESPONSE - I DUMPED HER
Her initial read - chump. ran away. as expected.
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/End of example two.


Sorry for being mean and sounding like an ass, if you actually get on my level you'll see I'm quite nice. I just talk like an ass.

I sowwy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Where you from Btw middle east? Me too. Pakistan, raised in America.

Btw I read your previous threads, woman seems like she is just using you. Red flags all over the place. But I still stand by my posts in the sense that had you been more dominant this never would have happened (you likely would have cut her off a long time ago :p :) )

She likely says things like I love you please come back blah blah because you are a great toy and resource. She uses you, doesn't love and respect you in any sensible way.
 
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GetFit66 said:
Where you from Btw middle east? Me too. Pakistan, raised in America.

Btw I read your previous threads, woman seems like she is just using you. Red flags all over the place. But I still stand by my posts in the sense that had you been more dominant this never would have happened (you likely would have cut her off a long time ago :p :) )

She likely says things like I love you please come back blah blah because you are a great toy and resource. She uses you, doesn't love and respect you in any sensible way.


i have dumped this girl twice, walked out a few times, if she talks trash, i,ve called her on that many times... i have switched my phone off & not talked to her in days...

other than dumping her, i don't know what else can be done
 

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Dumping her is all that needs to be done. Weakness takes you back to her, whatever excuse you make to yourself to go back to her is just bull**** your feeding yourself. Get over her bro. Shes trash.

Your a nice guy, learn to feel people out, if you really don't want to change your way (you should because they seem like they stem out of weakness) find a girl nicer/weaker than yourself. Even then I doubt your relationship will be good.

Used to be in your shoes not that long ago, you are your own worst enemy. You don't love yourself - or your stupid. No offence intended.
 

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i should have walked away from this woman ages ago... and on a few occasions i did... but true, weakness got the better of me

i kept telling myself she might change, or this time round it may be different.. but f'ck all changes, same old shlt


dumping her for good, is the only thing left to do
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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GetFit66 said:
Dumping her is all that needs to be done. Weakness takes you back to her, whatever excuse you make to yourself to go back to her is just bull**** your feeding yourself. Get over her bro. Shes trash.

Your a nice guy, learn to feel people out, if you really don't want to change your way (you should because they seem like they stem out of weakness) find a girl nicer/weaker than yourself. Even then I doubt your relationship will be good.

Used to be in your shoes not that long ago, you are your own worst enemy. You don't love yourself - or your stupid. No offence intended.


have you had a similar experience to this? how did you handle it
 

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Let's just say I've lived around stupid women like this all my life. You can waste so much time trying to change them and make them see the light but it's a gigantic waste of your time. You could be growing in much better and productive ways, these women often think that a boss/hunk is the type of man that will make them happy forever. He won't because they're retarded, the problem is themself not the man around them. I reacted much the same way you did, but now thinking back at it, it's like why would I waste my time on them and their stupdity with little to no hope in sight when I could be getting way better.

My thing is I like to help people, so I don't like giving up on them. But you have to look at it this way, the person you are now will never get respect from her. I mean has she done anything that screams "I am a wack job and you are too good for me" no... i don't think so. But the signs are there and she seems like she knows what she is doing ... taking advantage of you and using you.

An evil person can seem like smartest person ever doing all the right things for the wrong root reason.

However I don't think your ready to tango with the devil, work on yourself and honestly forget about this woman. You are a nice guy, you don't have to become don juan to get a woman to love you respectfully and deservingly, but this one doesn't suit you (if she's sane enough to suit anyone).

I'd say (and this is similar to what I did) leave, know you left because she was more trouble than she is worth (and possibly crazy. I mean she's already done things to you which are plain wrong). It will suck for a little while but bro there is sooooo much **** to enjoy in the world, love & sex doesn't make life easier unless you know how to maintain the resource. My last ex, a very nice girl but she was too lost & confused, I left. Hurt like a ***** at first but everyday I saw ways that made me say wow If i was still with her there would be this **** to deal with or that. I can now enjoy life on my own time.

I'm very all over the place in my posts, I had only read your post when I replied, but basically what all the guys are saying is right. They said it in a very short & simple way.

Take time off & reflect. You'll thank yourself for it the rest of your life.
 

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Oh when I broke up with her, I cried. LOL. But hey I learned a ****load a I don't waste time with bull**** now, my work & life in general have improved. And I've spotted a few women that are great which I'm working towards.

I will be king.

Don't focus too much on my advice I'm sure I've said things that are stupid because I talked too much and didn't think enough. But take what the other guys said. If it doesn't make sense to you challenge it and prove yourself or accidentally prove them right lol. When your right, your right.
 

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GetFit66 said:
Let's just say I've lived around stupid women like this all my life. You can waste so much time trying to change them and make them see the light but it's a gigantic waste of your time. You could be growing in much better and productive ways, these women often think that a boss/hunk is the type of man that will make them happy forever. He won't because they're retarded, the problem is themself not the man around them. I reacted much the same way you did, but now thinking back at it, it's like why would I waste my time on them and their stupdity with little to no hope in sight when I could be getting way better.

My thing is I like to help people, so I don't like giving up on them. But you have to look at it this way, the person you are now will never get respect from her. I mean has she done anything that screams "I am a wack job and you are too good for me" no... i don't think so. But the signs are there and she seems like she knows what she is doing ... taking advantage of you and using you.

An evil person can seem like smartest person ever doing all the right things for the wrong root reason.

However I don't think your ready to tango with the devil, work on yourself and honestly forget about this woman. You are a nice guy, you don't have to become don juan to get a woman to love you respectfully and deservingly, but this one doesn't suit you (if she's sane enough to suit anyone).

I'd say (and this is similar to what I did) leave, know you left because she was more trouble than she is worth (and possibly crazy. I mean she's already done things to you which are plain wrong). It will suck for a little while but bro there is sooooo much **** to enjoy in the world, love & sex doesn't make life easier unless you know how to maintain the resource. My last ex, a very nice girl but she was too lost & confused, I left. Hurt like a ***** at first but everyday I saw ways that made me say wow If i was still with her there would be this **** to deal with or that. I can now enjoy life on my own time.

I'm very all over the place in my posts, I had only read your post when I replied, but basically what all the guys are saying is right. They said it in a very short & simple way.

Take time off & reflect. You'll thank yourself for it the rest of your life.

thanx for your reply, i appreciate your advice!

the message i am getting from people on this forum is, that this woman is trash & not worth the effort.

and i have been tough with her... but still getting know where...


your right, i need to get this one out of my system as she is bringing nothing positive to my life other than turmoil & stress

what am i going to gain by staying with a woman like this? other than sex she has nothing to offer me... no future or stability of any kind

just need to get her poison out of my system
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So. Can we get pictures of these tatas ? :crackup:

haha i deleted evey last picture of her.. got rid rid of everything to do with her..


it's the only way to move on
 

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Should have said "I don't think this is going to work, good luck" the moment she gave you her friends feedback.

If she was interested in you, she'd have dumped her friend.
In fact, if she was any type of moral person, she'd have dumped that racist friend.

Any woman that wants a relationship with you must know that you come first!

This chick is a total simpleton, 2 digit IQ tops.
How could you stand it?

If allow disrespect the first time, it's just going to keep happening.

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