"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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2nd Date

RSanders219

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Ok guys, so I took this girl out for a second date. We walked around the city, checked out some stores and all that. The vibe seemed pretty good, lots of good eye contact and conversation. I decided to give her a kiss goodnight when I walked her to her dorm. She smiled and gave me sort of a flirty touch on the arm. I think it all went over pretty well, and I have some other girls to hit up in the meantime. Just wondering when I should establish a 3rd date with this girl? How long do you guys usually wait? Thanks!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

ARrocket

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It's time to stop taking her out on "dates." She is already into you; spending more time talking to her and walking around and whatever the hell else you plan on doing on "date 3" isn't going to increase her attraction. In fact, you'll probably drive her away if you wait too long to make a move!

What does that mean? It means you need to take things up a notch! You kissed her last time; this time, go for more. That's not gonna happen with you two going out to play mini-golf, so how about you just invite her over to your place? The way you get her there is up to you; be it (perhaps under the guise) of a movie, cooking her dinner, whatever...you need to isolate her so you can escalate.

As for how long to wait; my advice is to strike while the iron is hot. She's hot for you, so strike that damn iron!
 
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