2nd date, she insists to pay!

[Bonhomme]

I fourth Francisco, Fash, and Jackman. Enjoy!

 

[Ace of Flames]

Only on this site will you find guys turning down free food and a night with a hot girl.

Good lord.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Only on this site will you find guys turning down free food and a night with a hot girl.

Good lord.

Man, that is FUBAR.

 

[mrRuckus]

A girl told me not that long ago she wants the guy to pay because "a girl wants to think that a guy can take care of her"

 

[wayword]

take care of her

In other words, pay for all her shyt like an ATM.

That's why it's so sad how many AFCs there are in here feeling slighted when a woman wants to STEP UP and actually pay her own fair share. :kick:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

A girl told me not that long ago she wants the guy to pay because "a girl wants to think that a guy can take care of her"

Although it is true that the majority of women prefer to be with a man that can take care of her but I believe the ones who feel that they could do the same for their man (in more ways than one and shows it) is more valuable. I stay away from women who believe that all it takes is money.

 

[DJDamage]

So I think she's trying to "pay me back", for some reason. I'm a gentleman so of course I'll try to talk her out of it, just a bit strange that she'd behave this way.

Why are you so concerned about it?? If she wants to pay let her pay. Your main concern is gauge and see her interest in you throughout the date and the end of the date. So far all indications points to high interest level because (holding a megaphone): "SHEEE WANTSS TO SEEEE YOUUU!!!". If she didn't want to see you then you wouldn't have a date and it would indicate low interest.

Stop thinking about if a woman pays for a date then she doesn't like you. Think about more in terms if a woman SHOWS up for a date its a GOOD SIGN and if things progress physically like they are suppose to then its a BETTER SIGN.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Yeesh, that's a cunning little bugger of a test.

As our red-rounded friend above said, still offer to pay your half, it's common manners. If she still insists, then go blow your money on beer, or something just as productive :woo:

Good luck

Exactly. Tell her, OK, you can pay, I'll pay for the drinks. Then give her what she wants.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

She might be doing this out of guilt for the last time you paid.

I would consider her to be a waste of my time already. Any woman that feels the need to prove to me that she can pay is insecure.

Just keep in mind that this isn't a good thing. She is already trying to compete with you and be ‘the man’. Worst of all she has planned this with you already.

I’ll put my money on this date being the last one.

No, not another macho, I gotta show I am the man post.

She's offering to pay, one, to balance things out, since he payed last time. This can be high interest, or the fact that she sees him as friend material and doens't want to lead him on. Only he can gauge that and move forward with the interaction.

I am afraid it might be she doesn't want to create that feeling of owing you anything, including sex or hope of getting together. This is why you want to establish that you are sexually/romantically interested in her, ASAP. You need to touch her, kiss her to make obvious, that will set the context for the rest of your interactions.

She could also be testing you, and see if you buckle by being all macho and insist you pay, and all that $hit. As adviced above, offer to pay, if she insists, let her, and go about your business. The smother you go through that, the easier it will be to bed her, if in fact she is using it as a $hit test.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Better yet, tell her if she wants to pay, it is ok with you. "in fact, why don't you bring some food to cook for me? It would be much cooler than you paying at a restaurant."

 

[trance_addict]

Hmm, see, now we have people arguging on here, so obviously this is a topic worth talking about, since you all seem to care?

I'll be able to post something back on this later, gotta go to work

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Alright, enough is enough!! Give me her fvckin' number and I'll let her take me out to dinner! :woo:

 

[ScrewIt]

Although it is true that the majority of women prefer to be with a man that can take care of her but I believe the ones who feel that they could do the same for their man (in more ways than one and shows it) is more valuable. I stay away from women who believe that all it takes is money.

I find that true. Most or certain dates i've been on, if a girl is really is interested, she will offer to pay if she can stand on her own 2 feet. However in most cases it's better being the bigger man to offer your half or pay the whole tab. if she likes you she'll agree, and mention something about paying 'next time'...an IOI that there will be a next time.

However if a girl insists on paying w/o letting you pay at all or pay your half, you are her bytch or she doesnt expect there to be a next time with you. Girls dont like the idea of 'owing' a guy anything unless if they're interested in him.

Last summer i was the only guy stuck in a summer course with all women. The prof brought this topic up to the ladies...and as proven, most/all of them said they expected a guy to cover the first date.

no matter if a woman pulls out her wallet and lays a 20$ on the tab, it's the guys job to push that $20 back or at least insist on paying. One may not realize it, but women read into these little things as part of the bigger picture.

 

[DJDamage]

no matter if a woman pulls out her wallet and lays a 20$ on the tab, it's the guys job to push that $20 back or at least insist on paying.

I don't agree. The best way is not to treat a woman like she is so special just because she has a pvssy but treat her the way you treat any person you like such a friend. If I go out drinking with my buddy, I sometimes buy him a few drinks and sometimes he buys me. An extra $10-$20 dollars don't make a whole lot of a different if you are a working person. If you don't have even small amount of money for drinks, then you shouldn't be going out on a date but looking for a job.

If I go to a dinner with my buddies then everyone pays their own. Sometimes if the check comes and I pay for it, my buddy just nods and say "thanks I owe you" and next time he will buy me dinner. Its not a big deal with friends and it shouldn't be with women.

 

[mrRuckus]

no matter if a woman pulls out her wallet and lays a 20$ on the tab, it's the guys job to push that $20 back or at least insist on paying. One may not realize it, but women read into these little things as part of the bigger picture.

Good for her i'm still not her atm and there are plenty of women without a crazy notion like that and i saved myself $25 because she'll most likely end crap because if she has an ideal like that i'll probably violate some other stupid ideal/law of hers i don't match up to that she insists says sooooooooooo much about me.

 

[wayword]

most/all of them said they expected a guy to cover the first date.

no matter if a woman pulls out her wallet and lays a 20$ on the tab, it's the guys job to push that $20 back or at least insist on paying. One may not realize it, but women read into these little things as part of the bigger picture.

Most women today expect men to be total AFC pussies who will do...whatever they expect them to do like little puppies eager to please. Who cares what they expect though? Be the MAN you're supposed to be! :box:

Look, if I don't expect a woman to know how to cook these days, she shouldn't expect men to pay for everything. So, why is it still a "guy's job" to insist on paying?

I agree a woman will read into it - if you do she will know for sure you are an outdated, insecure AFC whom she can easily golddig outta. Women get paid more than men in many of the top male-dominated fields now due to quotas - so more of them CAN and SHOULD pay these days! We all need to be encouraging and enabling this precedent, now. If women want equal pay, they should pay equally too.

My rule is to pay...but if she offers, graciously accept. Most of these women do it because they are progressive and seek a little more gender equality. And I certainly support that when it comes to splittin' the bills.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...no matter if a woman pulls out her wallet and lays a 20$ on the tab, it's the guys job to push that $20 back or at least insist on paying. One may not realize it, but women read into these little things as part of the bigger picture.

I agree that women read into many "little" things but exactly what may that be (and especially for only $20). Any guy, of any age, of any character (AFC or DJ) can easily lay a twenty on a table, it takes no personality what so ever. I can think of many other effective and more memorable ways to differentiate myself.

Besides, imagine what type of woman would put major weight on old world, materialistic stereotypical actions. Even more so, you're not even in a relationship with this woman. What has she done to merit you as some type of benefactor?

Let her buy her own damn groceries!!! :cuss: (Watch the video in previous post).

 

[ScrewIt]

I agree with that. I forgot the times me and my date took turns paying for each other, and it works i have to say. If a girl is mature enough and isnt spoiled like other women expecting a guy to pay for everything, she'll pay her half.

On a side note, no guy should be offering to cover her tab in hopes of getting into her pants/seeking validation. Treat it like a compliment; do it because you want to, not because you expect a reward.

 

[Chrispy]

Let her pay (but not without offering to pay at least half or all). And if she pays, say you'll get the next one OR that you're buying her drinks/etc. right after (unless of course the date is dull and u want to cut it short!)

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

WTF is wrong with just accepting her generosity?