“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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2nd Date FR (and should I have escalated?)

Sun Ra

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Prologue: A week ago I went on a first date with a HB7.5. We did the whole coffee and conversation thing. It cost me 4 bucks, lasted 2 hours, and I kissed her on the cheek and said I'd see her again.

Yesterday: She and I had our second date. I picked her up and we went to a modern art museum (free admission on Thursdays). I had to park a couple blocks away, so as we're walking (no kino up to this point), I exclaim, "Where are my manners?" and offer her my arm. She takes it.

We wander around the museum for 50 minutes or so. We're making small-talk, but I'm bored out of my mind and I suspect she was too - modern art might be art, but a lot of it looks like something I could do in 5 minutes. Anyway, there were various rooms with weird films playing on a loop (other examples of modern art) so I wander in one, and she's kind of standing at the entrance to it. I tell her to come to me, she does, I pull her to me for a kiss (expecting a dull, "sensuous" kiss) but she goes right for the tongue. We tongue for a little bit, and then I suggest we get out of there and get a bite to eat.

We drive a little bit and find a cute, not too expensive ethnic restaurant. We order, make some conversation, eat, and leave. As we're driving back to her building, I tell her we should park and neck for a little while. Not smooth, but read some of my other posts - I am not a smooth operator. Anyway, she says, "OR we could go up to X floor." There was a lounge on the top floor of her building. Even better, I say.

We park, take the elevator up, and lo! A bunch of Asian tenants are playing ping pong. I then see the laundry room so I point at it, go in and she follows. We spend a few minutes looking at the nice view, and then we go back into this little alcove, and start making out fairly heavily. We're both still decked in winter gear, so feeling up didn't go so well, but she seemed into it. We probably made out for 15-20 minutes, stopping every time someone came in to do laundry (once or twice) and making innocent small-talk.

Eventually I decided to go. I had class the next morning and she had work. I tell her to walk me down, she does, we make out in the lobby for a little bit and agree to do something again soon.

My question - I was frankly a bit surprised that she was so open to tonguing. In my experience, I always thought that good girls at least feign a little initial restraint, and she seems like a good girl. Should I have invited myself into her apartment, or was I correct by 'leaving her wanting more'?
Advice appreciated.

By the way, let me add my voice to the chorus of voices which states personality can trump looks. I'm not ugly, but I'm not a good-looking guy, and she was pretty hot.
 

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Nice FR! Overall sounds like you had things under control.

Sun Ra said:
My question - I was frankly a bit surprised that she was so open to tonguing. In my experience, I always thought that good girls at least feign a little initial restraint, and she seems like a good girl.
Most girls pass themselves off as being 'good girls', since that is what society wants them to be. Like most women, she probably has strong sexual desires running through her body, and you tapped into them. Remember that just because a women is open to tonguing the first time doesn't mean that she's not in reality a good girl. The women who I've enjoyed the most, in that they were actually nice people (good GF material), were the ones who not only aggressively 'tongued' me the first time but also went farther the first time anything happened.

Sun Ra said:
Should I have invited myself into her apartment, or was I correct by 'leaving her wanting more'?
Advice appreciated.
Why didn't you initially go there? Why did you go to the lounge?

I would have gone to the apartment initially, since it sounds like things would have gone past first base.

Sun Ra said:
By the way, let me add my voice to the chorus of voices which states personality can trump looks. I'm not ugly, but I'm not a good-looking guy, and she was pretty hot.
Very true. Most guys get to hung up on the "women don't find me attractive" mindset. Instead of utlising their greatest tool, their personality. Not only through conversation, but using their personality to develop a 'style' that sets them apart from the crowd. You don't have to be chiseled out of granite to dress well.
 

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First of all, when you do see her again, DON'T do something so damn boring!

Coffee dates should never last 2 hours!

Second, don't over-analyze the tongue thing. She obviously wanted to give it to you. Take it and enjoy it for what it is.
 
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