You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Real_Deal said:Thanks for posting your opinion. I don't think this forum has it wrong at all, the discussions in Mature Man are fine.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I am not so keen on people giving bad advice, regardless of age. I have seen some horrid generalizations here , such as a horribly misconstrued comment about kids of parents with Bi-Polar disease. People who have no business posting information do so with no regards to the truth, or even any imperial proof.Paradox said:One of the problems here is that we have posters who post that they are 25 just to be able to post here. Many of these 17-23 year old posters feel like they are mature enough to give advice to someone who is two or almost 3 times their age.
This is true and there are some 30+ year old virgins here. But I have an aversion to taking dating advice from a kid who could be my son. That's just me.synergy1 said:I have met retards in their 30s, and some really mature well to do people in their early 20s. Age has less to do with poor advice than overall stupidity of whoever is posting garbage.
I don't disagree with you.synergy1 said:I am not so keen on people giving bad advice, regardless of age. I have seen some horrid generalizations here , such as a horribly misconstrued comment about kids of parents with Bi-Polar disease. People who have no business posting information do so with no regards to the truth, or even any imperial proof.
I have met retards in their 30s, and some really mature well to do people in their early 20s. Age has less to do with poor advice than overall stupidity of whoever is posting garbage.
99% of kids don't know $hit, agreed. I guess if that one in a thousand kid w/ game came around, I'd like to hear their point of view. I am amazed by naturals, since I was anything but when I was a kid.Paradox said:This is true and there are some 30+ year old virgins here. But I have an aversion to taking dating advice from a kid who could be my son. That's just me.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
That's why I pick and choose my spots where I post on this forum. I don't feel comfortable giving advice to anyone who is 40+ unless they are really down and out or really in need of some of the most basic advice. But any thread about divorce, LTRs and marriages, I stay the hell out of, because I have no business giving anyone advice about them.Paradox said:This is true and there are some 30+ year old virgins here. But I have an aversion to taking dating advice from a kid who could be my son. That's just me.