"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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21 year old needs some help :(

Bagofnuts

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alright guys... here goes..
I met this girl at a birthday party and we hit it off pretty well.

After that i met her at least 2- 3 times a week for 5 - 6 weeks
we texted alot and things were progressing really well.
Up to the point where we made out and i was really serious about getting into a relationship with her.

I then proceeded to ask her what i meant to her because she clearly likes me but cant forget her ex , Who left her hanging when he went overseas to study. they are still keeping in contact.

I asked her to choose between me or him and she said she would rather choose him and stay as how they are now, rather than asking him if he still wants to be romantically involved with her and make a decision. She told me she cant let go of him because of what they went through together and all that ****load of crap.

She also gave me 2 choices. 1 being, we stay friends. 2nd option is me walking away. She gets very agitated when i tell her i want to walk away and all. So i decided to tell her we can stay as friends. its been 3 days now and its my 2nd day of no contact.

Should i just forget about her.

Oh, and whenever i asked her whether i was just a substitute, she told me she could have asked any guy if she needed one. why would she always ask me instead.

sigh. i always get problems like this when i actually care about the girl
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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GS750

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So...she wants to have him and keep you around as an orbiter just in case? Because she knows you like her and want to be with her, so she's perfectly happy stringing you along. Selfish, immature, and typical. Walk away. See if she initiates contact with you after a while of ignoring her.
 

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GS750 said:
So...she wants to have him and keep you around as an orbiter just in case? Because she knows you like her and want to be with her, so she's perfectly happy stringing you along. Selfish, immature, and typical. Walk away. See if she initiates contact with you after a while of ignoring her.
make sense.. :/
what do i do if she happens to initiate contact after a while.
thing is shes starting to block me out of her life if im not wrong.
 

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Bagofnuts said:
I then proceeded to ask her what i meant to her
You were going really well, up until here.
Always wait until the girl initiates those 'where are we going?' conversations. Until then, your job is to be as much fun, and make her as horny, as possible.

If she blocks you out of her life, then just take it on the chin and move on.

If she does contact you, be polite but non-committal. She's basically said she would rather pine after her ex who is overseas than appreciate a guy who is right in front of her and interested. She really needs to re-qualify her value to you.

Oh yeah, don't change your mind on something just because she gets 'very agitated', she hasn't earned that privilege yet.

Good luck.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Sloweburna707

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You got Friend Zoned, my advice at this point is stick around if she has friends she can set you up with since that ain't happening with you and her now. Or Ignore her and move on, your just an option at this point bro.
 

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Thanks for sharing your advice / opinions with me. I really really needed them.

What if she asks me to hang out with her , do i say im busy? Or just go and play it cool
 

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Say your busy, be a little elusive. And let her see you with another girl.
 

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Quick update :/
She texted a me if i had to be in the army camp on wednesday, i just gave a polite reply " yeah its the 2nd day"
Her reply " so its today and tomoro"
My reply " yup "
Her reply " kkay."

She started again " is your leg okay?"
Me " it does, its getting better."
Her " dont be dismayed over the qualifying thingy im sure you can get Into the next one"
But whats important is still the condition of your leg, don't be an idiot and force yourself to touch the sky
Even superman has difficulty doing it
( she checked out my tweets )

How should i approach/reply this?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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She keeps tryna continue the conversation

Is there anyway to make her long for me instead/ regretting her decision
 

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Walk away. You are a young 21 year old guy. There are plenty of woman out there. It is dumb to stick to just one.
 

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should have f uck ed by date 3. unless virgin, then 4.
 

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Walk away. Tell her to call you when she is over the other guy. Express you'll be seeing other girls till then, which in fact, you should. Promise nothing. She's just looking for someone to give her attention an to get ego boosts off of. In turn you'll have the privilege of walking with her down the street while you lend her money to buy condoms so another guy can bang her.

If she can't be your girl, your time with her is over. There are way too many girls in this world that would like a bf. Once you embrace this mentality girls will be easier to let go of. Stop communication with her, it will get you nowhere, she made this clear.
 

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Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. Sigh... I wish things would be different stupid girl stalking my twitter and all

Any idea why she wrote , you are a real idiot. On twitter
Probably because i was tweeting to a bunch of girl friends maybe?
Shes still texting me to console her when she has issues.

I've had enough and wrote this

I wrote this for my last text


U know. Technically, we sorta just broke up. So i dont think we should be this close. U need to go sort things out before u come to me for consolation.
Dont delude yourself to thinking everything's alright or everything can stay the same. Because it ain't anymore. I am not gonna be there for you all the time. U have ur bestfriends and ur ex for that. Not me.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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foreverAFC

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lol give it up dude, dont you see she is not into you, she is just getting off on the attention, you guys had nothing special between you, ignore her and move on
 
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