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Rollo's response:

https://therationalmale.com/2019/06/02/21-convention-dates-cancellation/. He, Donny S., Rich "the where's my money b!tch" Cooper and Hunter Drew are all out The Red Man Group (which is grammatically incorrect btw) is dead. I guess Anthony "the fake Dream" Johnson is no longer a dream "CEO".

Gotta love these egos from people who do not even use their real names....
I went to the link, Rollo was being vague, even accommodating and stated he wish to be reinstated?!

And worse yet to get so many speakers to turn on you when they were once upon a time blood brothers??

This is not a mere ideological shift between the men, it's being portrayed more like Rollo did something so unimaginable that they can't stomach it nor be linked to him if word leaks out.

Rollo needs to go on the offensive if he's innocent.
 
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I went to the link, Rollo was being vague, even accommodating and stated he wish to be reinstated?!

And worse yet to get so many speakers to turn on you when they were once upon a time blood brothers??

This is not a mere ideological shift between the men, it's being portrayed more like Rollo did something so unimaginable that they can't stomach it nor be linked to him if word leaks out.

Rollo needs to go on the offensive if he's innocent.
He told me in a Twitter message that it will all be clearly obvious in the coming months.

A guy that goes by Hotep Jesus that was going to a 21 convention speaker said in a video that hearsay from a woman caused all this.
 

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He told me in a Twitter message that it will all be clearly obvious in the coming months.
He's making himself look guilty of something by trying to be accommodative.

He needs to go on the offensive, change the narrative very much like 21 did but if he's guilty then he can't do anything except play it cool, deflect as much as possible by being vague, hope it dies down and blow off by its own.
 

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I went to the link, Rollo was being vague, even accommodating and stated he wish to be reinstated?!

And worse yet to get so many speakers to turn on you when they were once upon a time blood brothers??

This is not a mere ideological shift between the men, it's being portrayed more like Rollo did something so unimaginable that they can't stomach it nor be linked to him if word leaks out.

Rollo needs to go on the offensive if he's innocent.
Nah, Rollo never attacks and is very neutral. He always takes the high road and is a good dude. He's also not a bridge burner. Many are followers. Mostly The dream dude's feelings were hurt. The two main speakers, **** Cooper and Rollo Tomassi are gone. Most only go to see them; maybe Elliot Hulse and Donovan Sharpe. No one else really matters.
 

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He told me in a Twitter message that it will all be clearly obvious in the coming months.

A guy that goes by Hotep Jesus that was going to a 21 convention speaker said in a video that hearsay from a woman caused all this.
These names... Hotep Jesus.... Think they need a Toad to speak for them? They have two open spots apparently..
 
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He's making himself look guilty of something by trying to be accommodative.

He needs to go on the offensive, change the narrative very much like 21 did but if he's guilty then he can't do anything except play it cool, deflect as much as possible by being vague, hope it dies down and blow off by its own.
It's anyone guess. But Rollo is not an egotistical person it seems. The man helps dudes for free. The other ones charge $$$. Fvck, **** Cooper now has is own beard oil he's trying to sell. Gotta love it.
 

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With some of these dudes, it's generally about their super ego and machismo.
They may be that and more but that's not the issue here.

The 1st issue for me is that they implied within their letter that Rollo has a personality flaw that's unacceptable to them or society at large (if it's leaked) and wishes to distant themselves, maybe their super ego's is guiding them to cut him loose from any potential fallout. Self preservation for the entire group.

The 2nd issue is Rollo's subsequent response towards it, being accommodating rather then forthright, which points towards being guilty of something yet trying to cleverly sidestep it by being vague in his blog.

That's what he's portraying after being basically "attacked".

Read back the letter posted by Redskin, see between the lines, the hidden meaning behind those cleverly crafted wordings.

If Rollo is reading this, then my advice is, go on the offensive, spin a new narrative or if u r truly guilty then ALSO go on the offensive by admitting it BUT making sure it's ur side of story or paying for it to get it buried.
 

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They may be that and more but that's not the issue here.

The 1st issue for me is that they implied within their letter that Rollo has a personality flaw that's unacceptable to them or society at large (if it's leaked) and wishes to distant themselves, maybe their super ego's is guiding them to cut him loose from any potential fallout. Self preservation for the entire group.

The 2nd issue is Rollo's subsequent response towards it, being accommodating rather then forthright, which points towards being guilty of something yet trying to cleverly sidestep it by being vague in his blog.

That's what he's portraying after being basically "attacked".

Read back the letter posted by Redskin, see between the lines, the hidden meaning behind those cleverly crafted wordings.

If Rollo is reading this, then my advice is, go on the offensive, spin a new narrative or if u r truly guilty then ALSO go on the offensive by admitting it BUT making sure it's ur side of story or paying for it to get it buried.
No one really knows aside from the dudes who are in the mix. Rollo is an accomplished author, so one would think he knows how to craft his words very carefully in order to get the effect he would like. He doesn't strike me as an aggressive dude and he's never taken any pot shots at anyone.

Time will tell.
 
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He told me in a Twitter message that it will all be clearly obvious in the coming months.

A guy that goes by Hotep Jesus that was going to a 21 convention speaker said in a video that hearsay from a woman caused all this.
Can you post the video here
 

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These names... Hotep Jesus.... Think they need a Toad to speak for them? They have two open spots apparently..
He announced via comment that he was out if Rollo is out. He only knew Rollo and was one of the speakers because of Rollo inviting him.
 

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Rollo commented this on his blog

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Just some developments here. Donovan and Hunter have decided to stay on with RMG and I’ve been asked to sell off my interests in the show as of yesterday. We’ll see how that develops, but I’m inclined to sell and be done with the whole thing. I wish them nothing but success, but I now know how Steve Jobs felt when he was kicked out of Apple.

There is no woman involved in any of this and I’m not being “Me Too’d” (sheesh, gimme some credit).

I’m aware that I’m being called an ideologue by the same people who’ve always found it to be in their ‘brand of me’s best interests to find some angle to disqualify the Red Pill truths that are bad for their businesses. My commitment to the Truth above their Hustle is inconvenient, so they need a way to poison the well. But this is nothing new.

Everything I addressed in my State of the Manosphere address at the 2018 convention has come to pass. In spite of all this I’m not going to deride the convention. I was asked to leave, I didn’t pull out, and this was the only conversation I had about it. Besides the offer to buy out my stake in RMG, I’ve been stonewalled ever since.

I regret that I can’t at least do the Poland talk. This is really eating me up because a lot of people bought registrations to see me and made plans based on me being there (oops was that Messianic?). I still have roots in Poland with my translation publishers there and I may still do some kind of talk or book signing in the future, but that’s all just speculative now. I promise I’ll find some way to make good on this mess at some point, but as I said, I was booted from the ticket. I should also add that Andrew Tate, Hotep Jesus and Rian Stone have also dropped from the convention.

I want to thank all you guys here and on Twitter for the groundswell of support. I know Anthony was disliked by a lot of people, and I can see now that I made a mistake of putting too much trust in people who I thought were friends (Law 2). I admit I may’ve been naive to think that the Red Pill would ever be something more than a secret truth. In 2015 I saw a need for a conference for Red Pill men after the Man in Demand Conference in Vegas. I thought that the 21 Con had that potential. But I guess I was wrong about it. I dedicated a lot of time and energy to make it happen. I even bought a home in Florida because I thought it would help facilitate things. Now I feel like an idiot.

My biggest regret is I wont be able to talk with guys face to face as I did at all of these conventions and listen to your stories and questions. If I have any incentive to do something solo it’ll be to get back to that.

For now my plans are to finish book 4. All these conventions and shows have been a distraction from my real work so I’m thankful for that. I’m going to limit my time on Twitter in the interests of finishing the book too.

I’m also going to be doing Pat Campbell’s show on Friday’s and RP101 on Sundays for the foreseeable future and I’ll be doing a regular podcast on my channel starting next week. I will also be starting a new show with Rian Stone, Carl and possibly some other Red Pill men who want to do an issues-focused Red Pill podcast. I’ll let you guys know if that pans out.

Thanks for having my back during all of this."

RT
 
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Egotism is not the issue rather it's about good order after the issuance of that letter by 21.
Rollo is a passive/expressive. What I got from the article is that he didn’t want to wreck 21 as a viable outlet for men.
You or I or other dominates would wreck the whole thing. If I was wronged, they could have to get ready for the onslaught that’s coming. I would pull everyone from 21 I could and run it at cost or low cost. As long as he was still making money from his liquor business and books.
You wreck 21 by capitalizing on their money making. Take it away.
 

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The truth is that future man groups are going to be targets. Even more so as they grow. There will be infiltration by FBI if not already

This man movement is very dangerous to the communist/socialist feminine movement. They are dismantling the concept of individuality and family and it is bad that men are rebelling against the narrative.

Eventually, there will be blood. This is a serious game for those in power. Wait till the cuckables and all the traitor men get started. They will have no choice but to sick them on us.
 

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Rollo is a passive/expressive. What I got from the article is that he didn’t want to wreck 21 as a viable outlet for men.
You or I or other dominates would wreck the whole thing. If I was wronged, they could have to get ready for the onslaught that’s coming. I would pull everyone from 21 I could and run it at cost or low cost. As long as he was still making money from his liquor business and books.
You wreck 21 by capitalizing on their money making. Take it away.
When a man does something, it must profit him.

I won't wreck 21. Useless endeavour and doesnt profit me.

I'd would theoretically just put to rest the narrative made by 21 CEO by simply repudiating it outright if I'm innocent.

This profits my reputation as its used to spread my ideas to men as a men right activist (theoretical).

Yes Rollo is expressive/passive but he has repudiated plenty of narratives and yet not this.

His message should have been addressed to the 21 CEO and be made public since he was being portrayed in public as a deviant.

There won't be blowback to 21.
 

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Rollo commented this on his blog

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Just some developments here. Donovan and Hunter have decided to stay on with RMG and I’ve been asked to sell off my interests in the show as of yesterday. We’ll see how that develops, but I’m inclined to sell and be done with the whole thing. I wish them nothing but success, but I now know how Steve Jobs felt when he was kicked out of Apple.

There is no woman involved in any of this and I’m not being “Me Too’d” (sheesh, gimme some credit).

I’m aware that I’m being called an ideologue by the same people who’ve always found it to be in their ‘brand of me’s best interests to find some angle to disqualify the Red Pill truths that are bad for their businesses. My commitment to the Truth above their Hustle is inconvenient, so they need a way to poison the well. But this is nothing new.

Everything I addressed in my State of the Manosphere address at the 2018 convention has come to pass. In spite of all this I’m not going to deride the convention. I was asked to leave, I didn’t pull out, and this was the only conversation I had about it. Besides the offer to buy out my stake in RMG, I’ve been stonewalled ever since.

I regret that I can’t at least do the Poland talk. This is really eating me up because a lot of people bought registrations to see me and made plans based on me being there (oops was that Messianic?). I still have roots in Poland with my translation publishers there and I may still do some kind of talk or book signing in the future, but that’s all just speculative now. I promise I’ll find some way to make good on this mess at some point, but as I said, I was booted from the ticket. I should also add that Andrew Tate, Hotep Jesus and Rian Stone have also dropped from the convention.

I want to thank all you guys here and on Twitter for the groundswell of support. I know Anthony was disliked by a lot of people, and I can see now that I made a mistake of putting too much trust in people who I thought were friends (Law 2). I admit I may’ve been naive to think that the Red Pill would ever be something more than a secret truth. In 2015 I saw a need for a conference for Red Pill men after the Man in Demand Conference in Vegas. I thought that the 21 Con had that potential. But I guess I was wrong about it. I dedicated a lot of time and energy to make it happen. I even bought a home in Florida because I thought it would help facilitate things. Now I feel like an idiot.

My biggest regret is I wont be able to talk with guys face to face as I did at all of these conventions and listen to your stories and questions. If I have any incentive to do something solo it’ll be to get back to that.

For now my plans are to finish book 4. All these conventions and shows have been a distraction from my real work so I’m thankful for that. I’m going to limit my time on Twitter in the interests of finishing the book too.

I’m also going to be doing Pat Campbell’s show on Friday’s and RP101 on Sundays for the foreseeable future and I’ll be doing a regular podcast on my channel starting next week. I will also be starting a new show with Rian Stone, Carl and possibly some other Red Pill men who want to do an issues-focused Red Pill podcast. I’ll let you guys know if that pans out.

Thanks for having my back during all of this."

RT
It's a good long reply by Rollo, still doesn't dismiss the allegations (implied character deviation) against him.

He earlier said he doesn't wish to derail 21, now he's saying speakers are leaving it implying otherwise.
 
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