"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i read somewhere on this forum earlier- this was an interesting topic so i thought id write a thread on this.

scenario 1- where a girl would sleep with a guy within hours ( a hot college dude)

scenario 2- she goes on a few dates with the guy yet hasnt slept with him or even decided shes not interested
( apparently someone said shes testing the guy for relationship material

im curious about this. why do some girls do this with some guys and not others.
is this an indicator of how much she likes on guy comapred to another?

i remember being in a situation where i was " seeing a girl for 3 months" and she didnt even sleep with me, but she met a guy on holiday shortly after and screwed him within the first week or something. yet she was telling me that she liked me etc etc. she told me afterwards that she wanted to see if she wanted to be in a rship with me thats why she wnated to spend time with me.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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you were seeing her for 3 months and got no action?

That shouldn't have gone on for more than 4 dates.

Most women prefer to be lead then taken.
 
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Because life is full of compromises.

The guy she finds the most physically attractive (who might not necessarily be LTR material) is more likely to be scenario 1.

A guy who is decent looking but not necessarily hot, but has good LTR potential will likely be scenario 2.

It's the whole cad versus dad thing.

Do I agree with this? Hell no, but that's how women operate.

Besides looks, the other factor is logistics. Women are more likely to put out on vacation/holiday with a guy they can F discreetly and never see again.

I look like a dad (ie LTR guy) not a cad (ie ONS guy), but I can tip the scales slightly towards cad/ONS on vacation or a business trip due to logistics and the possibility of a discreet hookup.

Pulling a ONS near home is very difficult for me.
 
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The H B O show G ir ls is very educational for guys to watch.

(Way better and more realistic than Sx in the Sity crap.)

In the first season, Hannah is FWB with a CAD guy with zero ambition/money.

Marni (if I remember right) has a good, smart DAD boyfriend, but she was getting bored with him.

Sounds realistic to me.
 
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what do you do then?! surely a girl who actually gets to know you and likes you would rather sleep with you than someone she barely knows?!
why after a few dates she then still doesnt want to sleep with a guy that she actually has got to known and like. or why does she take it slow with this guy and faster with another?

is this an indication of how much she likes a guy? the speed which she sleeps with them?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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lamobatsman said:
what do you do then?! surely a girl who actually gets to know you and likes you would rather sleep with you than someone she barely knows?!
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You are confusing liking someone as a potential LTR with raw physical attraction.

Let's say a girl meets some guy she thinks is hot but knows that there is no LTR potential because the guy is a player, already has a girlfriend, lives in another part of the world, whatever. In that case, she will put out quickly. Even though she knows she's being used for sex, she's okay with that because she wants to bang too. Giving it up is not a problem because there is no expectation of anything other than sex.

Now, let's imagine a different scenario. She meets a guy who is single and has LTR potential and she wants a relationship with him. In this situation, the girl will be reluctant to give it up quickly out of fear of being seen as easy and not considered LTR material. There *is* an expectation of something more, so the girl is witholding sex strategically.

As distasteful as this behavior may appear to us men, this is how females operate. Ironically, if you are just interested in getting laid, you actually have to make an effort not to appear as relationship material (while still being attractive to women in terms of your appearance and personality).
 
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Bokanovsky said:
You are confusing liking someone as a potential LTR with raw physical attraction.

Let's say a girl meets some guy she thinks is hot but knows that there is no LTR potential because the guy is a player, already has a girlfriend, lives in another part of the world, whatever. In that case, she will put out quickly. Even though she knows she's being used for sex, she's okay with that because she wants to bang too. Giving it up is not a problem because there is no expectation of anything other than sex.

Now, let's imagine a different scenario. She meets a guy who is single and has LTR potential and she wants a relationship with him. In this situation, the girl will be reluctant to give it up quickly out of fear of being seen as easy and not considered LTR material. There *is* an expectation of something more, so the girl is witholding sex strategically.

As distasteful as this behavior may appear to us men, this is how females operate. Ironically, if you are just interested in getting laid, you actually have to make an effort not to appear as relationship material (while still being attractive to women in terms of your appearance and personality).
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WTF?!! SO she doesnt mind being seen easy with the other guy but the potential LTR she does mind?!!
WTF?! I DONT UNDERSTAND WOMEN! surely a girl would respect a guy who takes things slow and wants to get to know them properly and not like other guys who just want to sleep with them quickly?! isnt that more of a compliment to a girl??? what do girls want in a guy?!! im so confuseddd
 
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WTF?!! SO she doesnt mind being seen easy with the other guy but the potential LTR she does mind?!!
WTF?! I DONT UNDERSTAND WOMEN! surely a girl would respect a guy who takes things slow and wants to get to know them properly and not like other guys who just want to sleep with them quickly?! isnt that more of a compliment to a girl??? what do girls want in a guy?!! im so confuseddd
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I see that you still have much to learn about women...
 
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I see that you still have much to learn about women...
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i do. can you explain me my questions please? so much i have to learn i knowwww
 
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