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And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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2 in the room and not a clue

HappyHobo

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So i had 2 chicks together in the same room. One of them was a friend and the other was a friend of the friend.

We were all sitting on my bed and watching a movie... a comedy and i got the idea of making out with both of them.

I wanted to bring it up at some point but i didnt want it to seem out of the blue or anything like that.

So i just waited till it was over.

When it finished i wanted to mention making out and see if they would be up for it but then they said that they had to do a lot of stuff tomorrow and leave town for college.

So i didnt want to mention it there because they aer already telling me its late and they need to wake up early and get a lot done tomorrow.

So it goes. That was that. And the night ended on a friendly note.

What do you guys think i should've done? Should i have mentioned making out sometime or was it good that i didnt because the moments weren't right.?

Suggestions for improvement for next time i get 2 chicks in the same room with me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Big Pappy

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Try watching a porno instead of the Hollywood videos.

If one of the girls is your "friend", I don't think there are many guys that can get a friend to just switch ladders that quickly.

My suggestion would be to get two girls that aren't your friend.
 

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You don't really mention making out, it's something that has to come naturally, like respect. You don't go up to a stranger and ask him out of the blue "So... how about you start respecting me?"

You've gotta build up the mood with kino and subtle touching so she gets the idea.

Plus two chicks at the same time isn't a good idea unless they're sluts.

And like Pappy said, if one is your friend, just forget about it...
 
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dude - focus your efforts on getting one girl, so that you are not in a room with 2 girls watching movies that are not interested in you. You know how the saying goes..." One girl in the bush is better than 2 girls in the bed" -- that doesn't sound right, scratch that, maybe it doesn't apply in this situation.:)
 

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I would have....

...broke out the booze, fired up some stash (u always keep some stash, cuz you never know) ....and got the party rolling. Do some body shots, and next thing you knw... you are in it....

I missed out like this one other time in my life, and I swore that I would never let an opportunity pass me again.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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well i didnt know the friend very well so i guess she wasnt a friend.

Im not exactly sure but i think if i suggested it they would have been up for it.......

And when we left earlier before, the girl left her cell phone at my place...

i dont know if that was on purpose but there is certanly suspicion.
 
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