"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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2 great dates and f-close - now gone cold?

tomato

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What would you guys do? Thanks.

Went on to really fun dates with ex (3 years together, broken up 8 weeks was NC for 6 weeks) and f-close on second date (clear very BIG IOI). She loved it all and said she was sad to leave the second time. It was great. Then I could tell she was hesitant so wanted to try a bit of a freeze out and said we shouldnt see each other anymore - she called that and said ok. Then folded after half a week and she texted she missed me..... I tried going full contact again but doesnt want to meet up again -"I need to get over you" "I dont trust myslef around you" "I dont want to hurt you anymore"

Then we texted/chatted useless chat a few days before yesterday - didnt want to meet up "needs to get over me".

I have stopped texting her - she will get back to me - how do I handle this when she does? I cant invite her for a date cause that sets up chasing frame, I cant just ignore her totally - she is gaming other guys and going out all the time to get over the pain/lonliness - she will just fall back on another guy if she gets lonely again...... How would you guys act when she gets back to you with "I miss you" or something similar?

Been a week since the f-close now. Is there a problem with momentum being lost here no? How soon do you contact a girl after your second date f-close? What would you do on 3rd date - would you ask hre out?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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garruk

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what do you want out of this? you need to make that clear.


after a long relationship like the one you mentioned, its very likely that she misses you. but it is a fleeting feeling and will pass as soon as another guy comes along.

she's not interested in anything long term. fact.

in your shoes, i would move on with my life. if she initiates contact, go ahead and see what happens. but the less you care, the more success you're going to have here.
 

IamJosan

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Keep the NC going, but step up your game. That way if you do see her again she will feel that you're better and will be more attracted to you.
 

The_411

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She's not interested. She was curious and probably was reminiscing over the good times you had and when you met up she felt good but in all honesty she probably felt the same stuff she felt when you two initally broke up. She can vibe you're interested in something long term and she's in no palce to do that.

As mentioned move on go NC chances of making it work are like 0.00001%

Why not start anew with someone who havea better shot with... of course if you think you'll win the lottery by all means proceed.
 
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