"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey everyone, so I have a little dilema here.

I've gone out with this one girl (we'll call her girl A) like around three times. All of them were fun, lots of making out and touching over the clothes [she's a virgin so she stops my wandering hands...>.<]. But yeah, I told her I wanted to see 30 days of night and she offered to take me and pay for me, so that's going down later this week.

This other girl (girl B) I have not gone out with yet, but I've seen her at shows in the local music scene like 3 times. She's kind of interested in me, and has tried to get me to go out with her and her friends a couple times before. Long story short, I'm seeing her later this week also.

Okay, here's the "problem". I just found out that girl A and girl B used to be best of friends in high school. They've recently reaquainted and started getting really close again. After finding this out today, I dont know if I should still see them both on the same day. (girl b after class around noon, and girl A is picking me up around 7:30)

What would you guys do?
See them both? (I will be at least making out with both of them)
What if they talk(its more a matter of WHEN they will talk) and then I end up seeing none of them in the future?
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Do it, go out with both on the same day.

You (talking to A) My day is so packed. I got a date later on tonight.
Her: With who? (or if she doesn't ask then say it anyways)
You: With some girl named B
Her: OMG B is like my best friend
You: No way! We should have a threesome :D

(now reply to my Thread :p)
 

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Maxtro said:
Do it, go out with both on the same day.

You (talking to A) My day is so packed. I got a date later on tonight.
Her: With who? (or if she doesn't ask then say it anyways)
You: With some girl named B
Her: OMG B is like my best friend
You: No way! We should have a threesome :D

(now reply to my Thread :p)
lol
The second part wouldn't work cause girl B already knows I know girl A and vice versa.

I should really try that threesome thing though...lol
But first I'd have to get girl A to have sex with me in the first place cause she's still a virgin...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hmm so they know that you know that they know each other. That makes the situation more complicated.

I think it would be ok to go out with both of them but you have to make sure that they know what you are doing. It's not good if they find out that you are going out with both of them when they talk to each other. Just be honest and open when you tell them. But don't ask A if it's ok that you are going out with B and vice versa.

As for the threesome goal down the line. Women are more likely to have a threesome with a friend of theres than with a random women. You never know, maybe A & B did some stuff together when nobody was watching. It's not uncommon.
 

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Maxtro said:
Hmm so they know that you know that they know each other. That makes the situation more complicated.

I think it would be ok to go out with both of them but you have to make sure that they know what you are doing. It's not good if they find out that you are going out with both of them when they talk to each other. Just be honest and open. But don't ask A if it's ok that you are going out with B and vice versa.

As for the threesome goal down the line. Women are more likely to have a threesome with a friend of theres than with a random women. You never know, maybe A & B did some stuff together when nobody was watching. It's no uncommon.
So what if I tell girl B that I'll have to leave a little earlier cause I'm seeing girl A later, and I tell girl A to pick me up a little bit later cause I'll need time to shower and stuff after comming back from playing basketball with girl B?
 

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Maxtro said:
As for the threesome goal down the line. Women are more likely to have a threesome with a friend of theres than with a random women. You never know, maybe A & B did some stuff together when nobody was watching. It's not uncommon.
Oh yeah, for this I think it's worth a shot.
I mean, I could "jokingly" throw it in there a little bit later on and gauge their reactions.
 

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I can't really tell you what to say but that seems fine.

Heh the thought of a threesome should be a long term goal. But try to find out if she has any bi tendencies or if she ever kissed a girl, something like that. It has to be done smoothly.
 

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You guys do know that all girls are bisexual right? I'm not joking. I'm dead serious.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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New long term goal: Threesome.
:D

Penis is just average though, and I've only had sex 4 times, which lasted between 10-20 min. I dunno if I could handle two girls yet...I'm gonna need lots of practice....hahaha.
 

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bob88 said:
New long term goal: Threesome.
:D

Penis is just average though, and I've only had sex 4 times, which lasted between 10-20 min. I dunno if I could handle two girls yet...I'm gonna need lots of practice....hahaha.
haha, You don't need to be good! I know guys that lost there virginity to a threesome.
 

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haha, You don't need to be good! I know guys that lost there virginity to a threesome.
Wow.

Still though, I'd want to be at least somewhat good during it. (if...no, WHEN it happens. :up:
 

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Thinking this way will stuff you up.

All that matters is that it will be good for you. You're not expected to be good.
 

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It'll be really easy. Girls do sexual favours for each other all the time. They just like it better when it's a guy doing them.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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